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Evolution: Full of Fiction
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RE: Evolution: Full of Fiction
(December 14, 2012 at 1:09 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Are you saying that muslims killed all thinking/questioning people in that area and then proceeded to evolve non-thinking/non-questioning individuals which thrived and are still displaying that genetic trait today?

No

Iranians/ Iraqis are saying that muslims killed off ALL scholars and the intelligente in Persia to subjugate Iran and Iraq

Check out here.... > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Iranian-a...0388917322

they are not happy about this islam shit.
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#12
RE: Evolution: Full of Fiction
From Darkstar's brilliant article he found:

Quote:Darwin’s biggest problem, largely unnoticed by today’s creationists, didn’t come from experts in his own field, but from non-biological sciences. Darwin understood that the grand course of evolution requires hundreds of millions of years, but Lord Kelvin’s calculations of the age of the earth and the sun — before anyone knew about nuclear physics — indicated that the earth and the sun were far younger than the eons Darwin required. Later discoveries showed that Kelvin, through no fault of his own, was exceedingly wrong, and that removed the greatest obstacle to acceptance of evolution. The concurrence of several independent lines of evidence is highly unlikely unless a theory is indeed an accurate explanation of the phenomena it addresses.

Just like the Big Bang predicted CMB radiation, Darwin's theory of evolution predicted that it would take "eons" for it to unfold like it has even though during his time it was unknown how old the Earth really was. Quite obviously, its prediction is supported by the fact we know the Earth to be ~4.5 billion years old.

Predictive power is a good measure of something being most likely true. You should already know this, given that Islam is hooked on prophets.

(December 14, 2012 at 1:08 pm)Darkstar Wrote:
(December 14, 2012 at 1:05 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: I thought it was obvious that natural selection (which has been observed) would lead to evolution.

It is also obvious that Muhammad was a fraud. Nothing new here.

It depends. How many logical fallacies am I allowed? Wink
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#13
RE: Evolution: Full of Fiction
The Scientific Case For Common Descent

29+ Evidences of Evolution - which you probably won't read.
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RE: Evolution: Full of Fiction
(December 14, 2012 at 1:18 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote:
(December 14, 2012 at 1:09 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Are you saying that muslims killed all thinking/questioning people in that area and then proceeded to evolve non-thinking/non-questioning individuals which thrived and are still displaying that genetic trait today?

No

Iranians/ Iraqis are saying that muslims killed off ALL scholars and the intelligente in Persia to subjugate Iran and Iraq

Check out here.... > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Iranian-a...0388917322

they are not happy about this islam shit.

I think it's also worth mentioning that biological evolution isn't the only kind of evolution out there. Technology evolves, with the 1800's telephone evolving into the cell phones everyone carries today; religious beliefs evolve (there's even a thread discussing he evolution of Satan in Christianity); in this case, the issue is cultural evolution. If laws are put in place that specifically attack people for being intelligent or educated, the society will evolve to discourage intelligence and education.

Personally, I find it incredibly facinating how universal evolution is and how many facets of our lives have been impacted by it and how it's happening right now, as we speak.
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RE: Evolution: Full of Fiction
Quote:Scientific evidence is based on tests and observation, yet no one has ever observed a species evolving into another species. So this would demonstrate that evolution is not supported by science.

No one "observed" your fucking allah creating the world either, dickhead.

Looks like your koran is just a pile of shit then by your own standard.
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#16
RE: Evolution: Full of Fiction
Quote: If laws are put in place that specifically attack people for being intelligent or educated, the society will evolve to discourage intelligence and education.

This is one of the pillars of Islam as I am to understand it.

The Mullahs need 'sheep' not Critical thinkers and will kill to promote 'sheep' hence a major refugee issue globally.

Further

I am to understand that this muhammered or whatever his name is (MHRIP) stole the majority of the principles of the Qur'an from the Judaic Pentateuch and then marketed it to an uneducated and illiterate Saudi population

Not bad for a young man who inherited an old widows fortune. IF this "muhammered" ever existed he is a most disreputable person in thought, word and deed
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RE: Evolution: Full of Fiction
(December 14, 2012 at 1:33 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote:
Quote: If laws are put in place that specifically attack people for being intelligent or educated, the society will evolve to discourage intelligence and education.

This is one of the pillars of Islam as I am to understand it.

The Mullahs need 'sheep' not Critical thinkers and will kill to promote 'sheep' hence a major refugee issue globally.

Further

I am to understand that this muhammered or whatever his name is (MHRIP) stole the majority of the principles of the Qur'an from the Judaic Pentateuch and then marketed it to an uneducated and illiterate Saudi population

Not bad for a young man who inherited an old widows fortune. IF this "muhammered" ever existed he is a most disreputable person in thought, word and deed

True. It wasn't always like that over there, though. Muslims kicked some Christian butt in the crusades, largely because they were the center of the scientific world at the time. Shortly after that, religion started losing control of European governments while religious fundamentalism started gaining power in the middle east. The end result was that Europe became the dominant power and the middle east turned into tribes of angry people constantly throwing rocks at each other.
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RE: Evolution: Full of Fiction
(December 14, 2012 at 1:31 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Scientific evidence is based on tests and observation, yet no one has ever observed a species evolving into another species. So this would demonstrate that evolution is not supported by science.

No one "observed" your fucking allah creating the world either, dickhead.

Looks like your koran is just a pile of shit then by your own standard.

It is likely that he will argue something to the effect of, "You have faith in evolution just like we Muslims have faith in Allah!" even though we have, in fact, observed speciation in a lab (i.e. - fruit flies, viruses, bacteria, etc)

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#19
RE: Evolution: Full of Fiction
Quote:even though we have, in fact, observed speciation in a lab

Right. Major distinction but probably lost on people who wrap their towels too tightly around their heads.
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#20
RE: Evolution: Full of Fiction
Amusing. Not one atheist can provide proof that evolution is true, can provide video footage of a species evolving into another species, or provide proof that any of the authors claiming that their alleged scientific evidence that evolution is true are speaking truthfully. Yet you still claim it's true.

The sheer delusion of atheism is uncanny. How the deluded stay delued. You gotta love the atheists. As you were.
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