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Dodgy morality in the New Testament
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Dodgy morality in the New Testament
EvidenceVsFaith said in the thread about History & the OT
Quote:I think what would be interesting is finding and revealing some of the immoral stuff in the NT. I see less of this...but it isn't perfectly moral (especially the cruxificion). I'd like to see more criticism of the NT's morality.

It is a neglected subject because we've been told over and over what a wonderful guy Jesus was and how the New testament contrasts with the Old. So we naturally assume all is sweetness and light in the NT.

Ithought it was sufficiently off-topic from the original History thread to warrant it's own thread.

Here are some of the examples I could think of dodgy morality shown in the New Testament.

Quote:Jesus compared non-Jews to dogs and said he had only come to save Jews (Matthew 15, Mark 7) - clear example of racism

Jesus cursed the figtree when it was out of season (Mark 11:12) clear example of being a bad-tempered grumpy bastard

Jesus says you have to love him more than your family (Matthew 10:37) clear example of asking way too much of people

Jesus exorts people to cut off their limbs rather than let their limbs cause them to sin and thus damnation. (matthew 18:8) Well, it isn't our hands or feet that cause us to sin. clear example of crap hyperbole except that there are examples of deranged people doing just this.

Jesus holds up the entire OT and all it says, including the killing of babies and anything else that is crap in the OT
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." (Matthew 5:17)

Jesus sends evil spirits out of a man and into a herd of pigs. the pigs rush off a cliff into the sea and die. Tough shit for the owner of the pigs (Matthew 8:30-33)

Jesus tells a disciple in a most uncompassionate manner that he can't bury his parents (Matthew 8:21-22)

Jesus says he has come to cause destruction and strife, not peace, and to divide families (Matthew 10:34-36)

If anyone would like to add other examples, or even try and explain how I've misinterpreted the examples I've quoted.

Paul's letters are a treasure trove of nastiness.
'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely? Jer 8:8
A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five. Groucho Marx
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RE: Dodgy morality in the New Testament
Recently I heard Sam Harris say that Jesus was very in favour of slavery which we now know of course is wrong....

Because of course just like you quoted stewart.... he's come not to 'abolish the law or the prophets' but to fulfill them....

If you think about it that is perhaps the worst of all of the quotes you gave because it basically shows that Jesus wants to fulfill all the horrible stuff in the OT... does it not?

But equally the worst is the last one you gave: He's after war not peace! wtf!

It Sounds to me like Ghandi was actually a huge improvement on Jesus.
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