new testament, matthew chapter 2

[Minimalist]

Usually these "I follow Jesus' teaching" types have to re-model jesus into something they can live with. Frankly, jesus comes across as a real pussy.

[justin]

Oh my goodness drich you're so wise! Wow your understanding is so vast and knowledgeable. your vast knowledge that your impressive experience, that you grace us with oh humble one , has granted you the insight on my true intention to argue not for a better understanding of these holy passages and why these things are what they are claimed to be when they stand on poor stories from the stone age. No i am to cause mischief because i already understand these why people believe in the passages and hope that someone will not blind my insight with their infallible phrases to test one true intentions! How genius!.........or i could really be interested if anyone has any answer to this understanding in hope that people will clarify or give me a deep insight that may give me a understanding beyond the obvious....that people believe a bible based on nonsense and if people disagree they are "fools". right.........there you go again ignoring that ability to reason

Wow. I. Did. Not. Expect. Such. A. Response. What. Can. I. Say. Or. Do. Now...

How, about let me know when you are ready to, not only examine what others believe, but what you believe as well. Otherwise nothing I can say or do will mean anything to you. That's the thing about a closed mind, nothing is allowed in. So even if you are asking questions it does not mean you want an answer. Closed minded people just look to argue.

Your projected response: "nut-huh, I was asking a legit question, and you are just a stupid head for not taking me seriously."

right because i think your answer was b.s i`m cloesed minded, i`ll never find answers asking questions and then expecting answers with a strong foundation................ look i reject your answer because it is flaw, doesn`t give me any new insight on the views on this story that i haven`t already heard and the fact that i am being open minded to understanding this doesn`t mean when you give a b.s answer and i call you on it that i`m close minded and just want to argue. it means your answer didn`t stand and i rejected it. just cause your answer is not sound doesn`t make my mind closed.

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Usually these "I follow Jesus' teaching" types have to re-model jesus into something they can live with. Frankly, jesus comes across as a real pussy.

says to "turn the other cheek" *doesn`t agree with a city* "you must all die!" lol irony

[Drich]

Wow. I. Did. Not. Expect. Such. A. Response. What. Can. I. Say. Or. Do. Now...

How, about let me know when you are ready to, not only examine what others believe, but what you believe as well. Otherwise nothing I can say or do will mean anything to you. That's the thing about a closed mind, nothing is allowed in. So even if you are asking questions it does not mean you want an answer. Closed minded people just look to argue.

Your projected response: "nut-huh, I was asking a legit question, and you are just a stupid head for not taking me seriously."

right because i think your answer was b.s i`m cloesed minded, i`ll never find answers asking questions and then expecting answers with a strong foundation................ look i reject your answer because it is flaw, doesn`t give me any new insight on the views on this story that i haven`t already heard and the fact that i am being open minded to understanding this doesn`t mean when you give a b.s answer and i call you on it that i`m close minded and just want to argue. it means your answer didn`t stand and i rejected it. just cause your answer is not sound doesn`t make my mind closed.

So let me get this straight. You refuse to even entertain a conversation that questions what you think you know of God, but do not consider yourself closed minded..

[John V]

so while reading this chapter i couldn`t help but to think a lot of wtf?
god knew that this king was wanting to kill Jesus Christ so i would`ve thought that this all powerful, all knowing all present, all loving all merciful god would have handled this situation a little better?

Er, considering the passage you reference, why do you conclude that god is "all loving all merciful"? Why is your argument anything more than a crappy straw man?

[justin]

right because i think your answer was b.s i`m cloesed minded, i`ll never find answers asking questions and then expecting answers with a strong foundation................ look i reject your answer because it is flaw, doesn`t give me any new insight on the views on this story that i haven`t already heard and the fact that i am being open minded to understanding this doesn`t mean when you give a b.s answer and i call you on it that i`m close minded and just want to argue. it means your answer didn`t stand and i rejected it. just cause your answer is not sound doesn`t make my mind closed.

So let me get this straight. You refuse to even entertain a conversation that questions what you think you know of God, but do not consider yourself closed minded..

when did i refue to entertain it? i just found you answer flaw and senseless. if i refused i would`ve never responded to your butthurt comments. but instead of giving me a logical response you just keep calling me close minded AND HAVE YET TO CATCH THE IRONY IN THE THIS CONVERSATION! hmmm i wonder if you ever will?

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so while reading this chapter i couldn`t help but to think a lot of wtf?
god knew that this king was wanting to kill Jesus Christ so i would`ve thought that this all powerful, all knowing all present, all loving all merciful god would have handled this situation a little better?

Er, considering the passage you reference, why do you conclude that god is "all loving all merciful"? Why is your argument anything more than a crappy straw man?

umm i never related the two together. this is something i have been told over and over again by christians. thats where that came from. so that is based from this experiance(which is a common one shared from people who talk about their faith) of a god described as so.

[Cyberman]

To everyone who doubted my method of providing a simple observation first: I have been doing this long enough to know that not everyone who asks a question wants an answer. some just want a foolish arguement, and as Missy was so good to point out 'we' are "not to answer a fool according to his folly."

Sorry mate, but that's not a judgement call you are entitled to make. Unless someone makes it blatantly obvious, you can have no idea what they are thinking or intending so you don't get a say as to whether they really want an answer or not. You can if you wish abstain from answering their questions for any number of reasons, of course, but that will tend to draw fire in the shape of conclusions about your avoiding questions. I'm sure someone made a whole thread on that topic somewhere.

[Drich]

So let me get this straight. You refuse to even entertain a conversation that questions what you think you know of God, but do not consider yourself closed minded..

when did i refue to entertain it? i just found you answer flaw and senseless. if i refused i would`ve never responded to your butthurt comments. but instead of giving me a logical response you just keep calling me close minded AND HAVE YET TO CATCH THE IRONY IN THE THIS CONVERSATION! hmmm i wonder if you ever will?

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Er, considering the passage you reference, why do you conclude that god is "all loving all merciful"? Why is your argument anything more than a crappy straw man?

umm i never related the two together. this is something i have been told over and over again by christians. thats where that came from. so that is based from this experiance(which is a common one shared from people who talk about their faith) of a god described as so.

So does this mean you are willing to look at what you understand to be God, with the same determination you have expressed for christians to defend they belief?

[John V]

umm i never related the two together. this is something i have been told over and over again by christians. thats where that came from. so that is based from this experiance(which is a common one shared from people who talk about their faith) of a god described as so.

I suppose it's a valid question for such people, if you're accurately representing their position, but in their absence, you have nothing.

[Drich]

To everyone who doubted my method of providing a simple observation first: I have been doing this long enough to know that not everyone who asks a question wants an answer. some just want a foolish arguement, and as Missy was so good to point out 'we' are "not to answer a fool according to his folly."

Sorry mate, but that's not a judgement call you are entitled to make. Unless someone makes it blatantly obvious, you can have no idea what they are thinking or intending so you don't get a say as to whether they really want an answer or not. You can if you wish abstain from answering their questions for any number of reasons, of course, but that will tend to draw fire in the shape of conclusions about your avoiding questions. I'm sure someone made a whole thread on that topic somewhere.

If you checked that thread you'd see that Post1, Line1 I make that very same distinction, between asking a question and answering a fool according to his folly/casting pearls before swine.

...And if you will note In my opening post here does not make a judgement. It gives Jr. an oppertunity to set the pace for my involvement. He told me to F-off and not to answer his question. So i didn't.

[Cyberman]

That's not to say you don't though. I made no reference to any post other than the one to which I responded. Nice attempt at deflection, all the same.