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RE: Should violent criminals be castrated?
February 25, 2013 at 12:55 pm
(February 25, 2013 at 12:47 pm)Nobody Wrote: (February 25, 2013 at 12:37 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: Yeah, a week to figure out if they're guilty or not. It's not like it can take years to discover someone's innocence.
Yes, because goodness knows a perpetrator who was fit to be found guilty in court needs two decades and more to find evidence that proves that evidence in court wasn't enough to find them guilty the first time. 
There may be more out there! Hey, even when the convict was found carrying the dismembered body they'd just raped and murdered, let's give them 20 years of appeals because you know...they just might not have done it. 
You realize it's not all that uncommon for innocent people to be found guilty in court? Sometimes they are dead before they are given a "not-guilty" status. Even after decades of appeals it was still missed.
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RE: Should violent criminals be castrated?
February 25, 2013 at 12:57 pm
How about cases with an Alford plea? Kill them too?
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RE: Should violent criminals be castrated?
February 25, 2013 at 12:57 pm
(February 25, 2013 at 12:33 pm)Nobody Wrote: Pedophiles and rapists should be executed in an expedited hearing that gives them no longer than one week of reprieve for appeal of their sentence.
That is a statement made from complete and utter ignorance.
I have had the occasion to know a number of convicted sex offenders. By and large, they are average people who have made some bad choices and done some bad things. THIS DOES NOT MAKE THEM BAD PEOPLE.
Do I condone their actions? Not even remotely. They have done bad things and should be punished accordingly. However, they should no more be generically executed than any other criminal. Belief otherwise is simply sensationalism.
Lets look at a few other crimes:
Drug dealers have a wide ranging effect on our society from healthcare and enforcement costs to broken families, increased crime and destroyed lives.
In the not-to-distant past, homosexuality was a crime. Do you advocate the killing of homosexuals for engaging in homosexual acts?
White collar crime alá Bernie Madoff. He stole MILLIONS and destroyed the lives of numerous people. Should he be executed?
I think you should do some research. Saying a certain class of crimes deserves default execution while completely ignoring the effects of other types of crimes is simply parroting what you are fed by the media.
Get you facts straight before spouting your ignorant, fear-inducing opinions. Better yet, go talk to a few convicted sex offenders. You will find they are no different than you.
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RE: Should violent criminals be castrated?
February 25, 2013 at 1:00 pm
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(February 25, 2013 at 12:38 pm)Nobody Wrote: What a foolish point of view and series of questions. Then I did it right, bonus points if you can draw an inference as to how they relate to your own statement and why I chose such "foolish" questions.
(February 25, 2013 at 12:47 pm)Nobody Wrote: Yes, because goodness knows a perpetrator who was fit to be found guilty in court needs two decades and more to find evidence that proves that evidence in court wasn't enough to find them guilty the first time. It' been known to take decades, yes, and of course we've executed innocent people (whose innocence has been made very plain) on the grounds that they were found guilty by a jury of their peers. So...yeah, if we're dead-set on executing people.....no amount of time is enough time. Said it before, I'll say it again. Execution is something which, once done, cannot be undone.
Quote:There may be more out there! Hey, even when the convict was found carrying the dismembered body they'd just raped and murdered, let's give them 20 years of appeals because you know...they just might not have done it.
You assumed their guilt in the statement. They were found carrying a dismembered body which had been raped. Whether or not they did the raping, murdering, and dismembering is what must be established and cannot simply be taken for granted. To be fair, it wouldn't look very good for the accused. In compromise, if we're going t do anything quite so permanent as castration or execution for this or that then I would demand more than the consensus of a jury of ones peers to be the justification for it. Even then, I'd suspect the system to be open -somewhere- to fraud and manipulation -given enough power or authority- one could still be railroaded.
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RE: Should violent criminals be castrated?
February 25, 2013 at 2:33 pm
corporal punishment can stay in the history books.
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RE: Should violent criminals be castrated?
February 25, 2013 at 2:39 pm
(February 25, 2013 at 2:33 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: corporal punishment can stay in the history books. Says the guy who only a couple of days ago was practically begging to be whipped. 
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RE: Should violent criminals be castrated?
February 25, 2013 at 2:41 pm
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Whip me and suffer the (wonderful) consequences.....
Lil-LEH! where you at>
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RE: Should violent criminals be castrated?
February 25, 2013 at 2:44 pm
(February 25, 2013 at 2:39 pm)Vera Wrote: Says the guy who only a couple of days ago was practically begging to be whipped.
The difference here is:
I want to get whipped for sexual reasons and am ready to whip in exchange myself.
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RE: Should violent criminals be castrated?
February 25, 2013 at 2:46 pm
(February 25, 2013 at 2:44 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: The difference here is:
I want to get whipped for sexual reasons and am ready to whip in exchange myself. Potayto, potahto...
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RE: Should violent criminals be castrated?
February 25, 2013 at 2:48 pm
Was that Bulgarian?
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