Conflicting statements in the bible

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Fortunately we can tell the difference between those who want truth and you.

I can only assume you're being ironic to the nth degree.

Well played.

[A_Nony_Mouse]

What does belief have to do with it when one cannot distinguish the gospel writers from liars?

Fortunately we can tell the difference between those who want truth and you.

Are you suggesting you are using the traditional secret method you believers cannot tell us unbelievers? Or are you using a method you can explain and not be ridiculed for claiming to use it?

As is stands there is still no way to distinguish your writers of only four of the gospels from liars until you give us the method you use.

PS. Truth is an abstract noun. You are using it incorrectly. You can only refer to the truth about something or other. There is no such thing as "truth" which stands alone. Please use proper English in the future.

[Minimalist]

G-C's "god" whispers in his ear. G-C has a lot of delusions.

[Baalzebutt]

Where did I say Jesus was born in 4 BC? He merely had to be born before Herod’s death in 4 BC. Most scholars believe Jesus was born around 6 BC, and Mary could easily be pregnant and have to begin traveling to Bethlehem in 7 BC and give birth in 6 BC.

Wait...how could jesus be born in 6 BC? BC stands for "Before Christ". If he was born in 6 BC, wouldn't that, by definition, make the year he was born 1 DC (during christ)?

And your travelling thing doesn't work either. Since jesus was born in December -the 25th- mary would not have been pregnant until april of the same year. Unless her pregnancy was a year long, there is no way she could travel in 7 BC while pregnant and not give birth until 6 BC.

Contradictions abound!!

[Minimalist]

Wait...how could jesus be born in 6 BC? BC stands for "Before Christ".

That whole AD/BC shit is the invention of a 6th century monk named Dionysius Exiguus ( Dennis the Short.... probably referring to his dick.)
Dennis made a few math errors in his calculations which has the whole scale off by a minimum of 5 years.

[John V]

Saw this chart on another forum awhile back. I showed that the very first one doesn't hold up. Not impressed.

[Minimalist]

Really?

Let's see: 2 Sam 23:8

New International Version (©2011)
These are the names of David's mighty warriors: Josheb-Basshebeth, a Tahkemonite, was chief of the Three; he raised his spear against eight hundred men, whom he killed in one encounter.

New Living Translation (©2007)
These are the names of David's mightiest warriors. The first was Jashobeam the Hacmonite, who was leader of the Three--the three mightiest warriors among David's men. He once used his spear to kill 800 enemy warriors in a single battle.

English Standard Version (©2001)
These are the names of the mighty men whom David had: Josheb-basshebeth a Tahchemonite; he was chief of the three. He wielded his spear against eight hundred whom he killed at one time.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
These are the names of the mighty men whom David had: Josheb-basshebeth a Tahchemonite, chief of the captains, he was called Adino the Eznite, because of eight hundred slain by him at one time;

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
These be the names of the mighty men whom David had: The Tachmonite that sat in the seat, chief among the captains; the same was Adino the Eznite: he lift up his spear against eight hundred, whom he slew at one time.

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
These are the names of David's warriors: Josheb-basshebeth the Tahchemonite was chief of the officers. He wielded his spear against 800 men that he killed at one time.

International Standard Version (©2012)
Here's a list of the names of David's special forces: Josheb-basshebeth the Tahkemonite was head of the Three; he was nicknamed Adino the Eznite because he killed 800 men in a single battle engagement.

NET Bible (©2006)
These are the names of David's warriors: Josheb-Basshebeth, a Tahkemonite, was head of the officers. He killed eight hundred men with his spear in one battle.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
These are the names of David's fighting men: Josheb Basshebeth from Tahkemon's family was leader of the three. He used a spear to kill 800 men on one occasion.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
These are the names of the mighty men whom David had: The Tachmonite that sat in the seat, chief among the captains; the same was Adino the Eznite: he lifted up his spear against eight hundred, whom he slew at one time.

American King James Version
These be the names of the mighty men whom David had: The Tachmonite that sat in the seat, chief among the captains; the same was Adino the Eznite: he lift up his spear against eight hundred, whom he slew at one time.

American Standard Version
These are the names of the mighty men whom David had: Josheb-basshebeth a Tahchemonite, chief of the captains; the same was Adino the Eznite, against eight hundred slain at one time.

Douay-Rheims Bible
These are the names of the valiant men of David. Jesbaham sitting in the chair was the wisest chief among the three, he was like the most tender little worm of the wood, who killed eight hundred men at one onset.

Darby Bible Translation
These are the names of the mighty men whom David had: Joseb-Bassebeth, Tachkemonite the chief of the captains: he was Adino the Eznite; he fought against eight hundred, slain by him at one time.

English Revised Version
These be the names of the mighty men whom David had: Josheb-basshebeth a Tahchemonite, chief of the captains; the same was Adino the Eznite, against eight hundred slain at one time.

Webster's Bible Translation
These are the names of the mighty men whom David had: The Tachmonite that sat in the seat, chief among the captains; the same was Adino the Eznite: he lifted up his spear against eight hundred, whom he slew at one time.

World English Bible
These are the names of the mighty men whom David had: Josheb Basshebeth a Tahchemonite, chief of the captains; the same was Adino the Eznite, against eight hundred slain at one time.

Young's Literal Translation
These are the names of the mighty ones whom David hath: sitting in the seat is the Tachmonite, head of the captains -- he is Adino, who hardened himself against eight hundred -- wounded at one time.

v 1 Chronicles 11:11

New International Version (©2011)
this is the list of David's mighty warriors: Jashobeam, a Hakmonite, was chief of the officers; he raised his spear against three hundred men, whom he killed in one encounter.

New Living Translation (©2007)
Here is the record of David's mightiest warriors: The first was Jashobeam the Hacmonite, who was leader of the Three--the mightiest warriors among David's men. He once used his spear to kill 300 enemy warriors in a single battle.

English Standard Version (©2001)
This is an account of David’s mighty men: Jashobeam, a Hachmonite, was chief of the three. He wielded his spear against 300 whom he killed at one time.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
These constitute the list of the mighty men whom David had: Jashobeam, the son of a Hachmonite, the chief of the thirty; he lifted up his spear against three hundred whom he killed at one time.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And this is the number of the mighty men whom David had; Jashobeam, an Hachmonite, the chief of the captains: he lifted up his spear against three hundred slain by him at one time.

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
This is the list of David's warriors: Jashobeam son of Hachmoni was chief of the Thirty; he wielded his spear against 300 and killed them at one time.

International Standard Version (©2012)
This record of the warriors who were for David included Hachmoni's son Jashobeam, leader of the platoons, who killed 300 with his spear in a single encounter.

NET Bible (©2006)
This is the list of David's warriors: Jashobeam, a Hacmonite, was head of the officers. He killed three hundred men with his spear in a single battle.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
The first of David's fighting men was Jashobeam, son of Hachmon, the leader of the three. He used his spear to kill 300 men on one occasion.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And this is the number of the mighty men whom David had; Jashobeam, a Hachmonite, the chief of the captains: he lifted up his spear against three hundred slain by him at one time.

American King James Version
And this is the number of the mighty men whom David had; Jashobeam, an Hachmonite, the chief of the captains: he lifted up his spear against three hundred slain by him at one time.

American Standard Version
And this is the number of the mighty men whom David had: Jashobeam, the son of a Hachmonite, the chief of the thirty; he lifted up his spear against three hundred and slew them at one time.

So, in your mind 800 = 300? What kind of a mind does it take to profess such utter nonsense?

[Tonus]

Things were different back then, Min. Ancient man could only count to 20 (21 if he was naked, 21.5 if he was aroused). 300? 800? Same fuckin' thing.

[John V]

What you miss is that the two passages are given at different points in the chronology, with the 800 at a later point than the 300. So, both could be accurate.

Personally I tend to think that the numerical differences are more likely due to copying errors which have no effect on doctrine. But in this case, you don't even have a solid numerical difference due to the time factor.

[Statler Waldorf]

Quirinius was not procurator. He was of the senatorial class and an ex-consul. Procurators during the reign of Tiberius...and probably Augustus...were drawn from the Equestrian order. Quirinius would have been the Imperial Legate a title befitting his status.

Even if what you assert were true, which doesn’t appear to be the case at all (simply because things were done one way under Tiberius does not mean they were done that way under Augustus), it does not change anything because hegemon is a generic term for a ruling officer, it can mean a whole host of different titles. We know that Quirinius was a ruling officer in the area because according to Augustus’ own writings he led the effort to quell the rebel uprising which occurred around 7 BC. Martyr’s writings indicate that Quirinius was in fact appointed the position of procurator of Judea prior to being Governor of Syria around 6 AD; this was most likely the case because he was the most loyal follower of Augustus in the area. It also makes sense that he’d be appointed to head the 7 BC census because at that time there was a leadership change in the region from Saturninus to Varus (even though Luke never says that Quirinius was in charge of issuing the census, just that it was the first one issued while he was in a position of authority in the region). So to recap, we know that there were three censuses given while Quirinius was an officer in the region; Luke says that Jesus was born just after the first of these censuses was issued (7 BC), which means that Mark and Luke’s statements do not contradict one another. It looks like you’ll have to find another faux contradiction to champion.

---

Wait...how could jesus be born in 6 BC? BC stands for "Before Christ". If he was born in 6 BC, wouldn't that, by definition, make the year he was born 1 DC (during christ)?

And your travelling thing doesn't work either. Since jesus was born in December -the 25th- mary would not have been pregnant until april of the same year. Unless her pregnancy was a year long, there is no way she could travel in 7 BC while pregnant and not give birth until 6 BC.

Contradictions abound!!

---

You’re trying to be funny….right?