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The Illuminati
#21
RE: The Illuminati
^ Where do you obtain your evidence? If you say Infowars, you lose.
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#22
RE: The Illuminati
(May 11, 2013 at 5:05 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: Where do you obtain your evidence? If you say Infowars, you lose.

Cleanshavenjesus.gov. Do I win?
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#23
RE: The Illuminati
(May 11, 2013 at 5:59 pm)Love Wrote:
(May 11, 2013 at 5:05 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: Where do you obtain your evidence? If you say Infowars, you lose.

Cleanshavenjesus.gov. Do I win?

Ah, so you do get your information from Infowars. Well, I rest my case.
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#24
RE: The Illuminati
(May 11, 2013 at 6:23 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote:
(May 11, 2013 at 5:59 pm)Love Wrote: Cleanshavenjesus.gov. Do I win?

Ah, so you do get your information from Infowars. Well, I rest my case.

Okay, well I cannot be bothered with this petty game of flippant responses. To answer your question: NO. I have already stated on a few occasions that I strongly dislike Alex Jones, so the idea that I get my information from Infowars is ruled out immediately. I absolutely do not trust the commercial conspiracy theorists (David Icke, Alex Jones, Jordan Maxwell et cetera); they're all disinformation agents in my opinion.

A lot of the information I have viewed has been sourced from official US government websites, official US military websites and former USSR highly classified military documents. I have been in contact with people who engage in extensive independent research (REAL research) on the subject.

I highly doubt, however, that anything will ever change your opinion on the subject; there will never be any kind of evidence that will be enough to penetrate your skepticism.
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#25
RE: The Illuminati
Actually, nice try, I was once a conspiracy theorist. And I still think that Bilderberg Group (I assume you're aware of) is up to something. But if you think there's a council of people controlling the entire world, that's an extraordinary claim. Please provide evidence to just a bit of this real research done by your contacts.
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#26
RE: The Illuminati
People who believe in this just have to think for a few moments. Some organization secretly controls the entire earth? What sort of bureaucracy would be required to do that? This would be a conspiracy of such magnitude that hundreds of thousands of people would have to be in on it. What's the point of the secrecy? Governments already can control people and have power with no secrets. The proof of this (often times just the random repetition of common symbols, triangles, ovals, etc) is so poor compared to the claims made that it's a wonder anyone can take it seriously and not be locked up in a loony bin. Which in their mind would be further 'proof' of the Illuminati.

(May 12, 2013 at 4:38 am)Love Wrote:
(May 11, 2013 at 6:23 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: Ah, so you do get your information from Infowars. Well, I rest my case.

Okay, well I cannot be bothered with this petty game of flippant responses. To answer your question: NO. I have already stated on a few occasions that I strongly dislike Alex Jones, so the idea that I get my information from Infowars is ruled out immediately. I absolutely do not trust the commercial conspiracy theorists (David Icke, Alex Jones, Jordan Maxwell et cetera); they're all disinformation agents in my opinion.

A lot of the information I have viewed has been sourced from official US government websites, official US military websites and former USSR highly classified military documents. I have been in contact with people who engage in extensive independent research (REAL research) on the subject.

I highly doubt, however, that anything will ever change your opinion on the subject; there will never be any kind of evidence that will be enough to penetrate your skepticism.

Second question. Do you get your information from LSD trips?
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#27
RE: The Illuminati
(May 12, 2013 at 12:38 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: Please provide evidence to just a bit of this real research done by your contacts.

HERE is a tiny bit of evidence from the extensive research I have conducted on the subject. What I have included only proves that The Illuminati is real, and exists today. I suggest that you make the effort to do your own proper research if you are genuinely interested in the subject. If what I have provided does not convince you that The Illuminati is real, then I strongly doubt that any form of evidence would be enough.

As ludicrous as it might sound to an atheistic rationalist, these people are Luciferians and they actively invoke and engage with demonic entities; they're heavily into black magic and parapsychology.
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#28
RE: The Illuminati
(May 13, 2013 at 10:17 am)Love Wrote:
(May 12, 2013 at 12:38 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: Please provide evidence to just a bit of this real research done by your contacts.

HERE is a tiny bit of evidence from the extensive research I have conducted on the subject. What I have included only proves that The Illuminati is real, and exists today. I suggest that you make the effort to do your own proper research if you are genuinely interested in the subject. If what I have provided does not convince you that The Illuminati is real, then I strongly doubt that any form of evidence would be enough.

As ludicrous as it might sound to an atheistic rationalist, these people are Luciferians and they actively invoke and engage with demonic entities; they're heavily into black magic and parapsychology.

You remember you asked me what I would accept as evidence for the illuminati's existence?

A zip file isn't it.

Don't you see the blatent confirmation bias inherent in all these bizzare conspiracy nut theories? Someone down the line the idea that illuminati (presuming they existed) were involved in satanic rituals and using evil to control the world. And what do we get? Flimsy, unsubstantiated anecdote that involves the idea of satanic rituals.

Yeah, skeptical rationalism is such a negative attribute to have. Better to swallow everything that's fed to you (and no, nobody here is interested in researching the illuminati just like nobody is interested in studying what santa's favourite colour is).

Have fun with your 'research'.
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#29
RE: The Illuminati
(May 13, 2013 at 2:03 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: A zip file isn't it.

Do you actually know what a zip file is? Have you extracted the zip file to view the content? Judging from what you have written, the answer is very clearly "NO". View the content before writing petulant responses.

This might also be of interest to you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucian...ti_section.
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#30
RE: The Illuminati
(May 13, 2013 at 2:36 pm)Love Wrote:
(May 13, 2013 at 2:03 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: A zip file isn't it.

Do you actually know what a zip file is? Have you extracted the zip file to view the content? Judging from what you have written, the answer is very clearly "NO". View the content before writing petulant responses.

This might also be of interest to you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucian...ti_section.

No. I've never come across a ZIP file in my life. Not once.

The subject matter warrants petulant responses. In fact, it demands it, perhaps with a wiff of humor thrown in for good measure. Please say you find them funny! I do so love the admiration of others.

Remember, the troof is out thar! *dun dun dun dun dan dun!*
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