Intelligent Design, Proof V

[Muslim Scholar]

Do you read what are you writing

How can you navigate with just a compass???
You need to know your location and the target location directions related to yours (i.e. a map)

Negative! You can create your own map via a compass, time, and pase count. You are navigating from point A to point B. Using techniques such as reverse Azimuth with large points of reference. Read US Army Field Manual FM 3-25 Maps and Land Navigation. Even the Boy Scouts learn how to navigate without a map.

Also, how do you think we humans get maps? God gave us the Maps? We created them! In the United States, Lewis and Clarke expedition map most of the United States. I wonder what did they use? Compass, pace count, and time.

A map is not only maps you buy from the store
What you said is "a MAP"

Point A, Point B, directions between them, etc.

Imagine If you are an Eel and I placed you in the Caribbean and told you go to Pond dsalhf in Norway and gave you an empty GPS (with no maps)

How will you know where are you and where to go.

No matter what you say or imagine, you will need external data about
-Your current location
-Your target
-Directions between them
-Plus data about any obstacles that you will face to navigate around them.

Why don't you give me a specific example where you can navigate with no external data about locations?

If you do, I'll eat the Eel and stops him from talking for ever!

[pocaracas]

Migratory animals require landmarks to make the trip back... remove some landmarks (or add some new ones) and you'll have some animals getting hopelessly lost.
IT seems this god-provided map fails some updates, or something... -.-'

[Dragonetti]

Negative! You can create your own map via a compass, time, and pase count. You are navigating from point A to point B. Using techniques such as reverse Azimuth with large points of reference. Read US Army Field Manual FM 3-25 Maps and Land Navigation. Even the Boy Scouts learn how to navigate without a map.

Also, how do you think we humans get maps? God gave us the Maps? We created them! In the United States, Lewis and Clarke expedition map most of the United States. I wonder what did they use? Compass, pace count, and time.

A map is not only maps you buy from the store
What you said is "a MAP"

Point A, Point B, directions between them, etc.

Imagine If you are an Eel and I placed you in the Caribbean and told you go to Pond dsalhf in Norway and gave you an empty GPS (with no maps)

How will you know where are you and where to go.

No matter what you say or imagine, you will need external data about
-Your current location
-Your target
-Directions between them
-Plus data about any obstacles that you will face to navigate around them.

Why don't you give me a specific example where you can navigate with no external data about locations?

If you do, I'll eat the Eel and stops him from talking for ever!

WOW, you are dumb. You make it sound like the Eels are being told where to go by other older Eels. Let me give you this example, I start with a blank page! My known starting location is unknown, and it is not needed. I mark myself on this page anywhere, using compass, time, and major landmark features. I walk at any direction, base on my compass I mark the direction and distance with my pace count. I continue surveying the area marking down land marks and terrain. This is all in that Field Manual, as I continue to survey and fill up my map, I should have a detail map with the ability to return to my point of origin such as spawning points for Eels, using the intensity of the magnetic fields.

This is how the military does things. We are given a target description, but not location. We are dropped off with no map and no known location. We have to infiltrate, execute, and ex-filtrate from a known target, and not a known location. Military trains for every possible outcome, which includes no map, no compass, no watch, and unknown territory. This does have a high failure rate, and GPS is used by the trainers to track trainees for safety. Think of the failures as survival of the fittest.

[Esquilax]

A map is not only maps you buy from the store
What you said is "a MAP"

Point A, Point B, directions between them, etc.

Imagine If you are an Eel and I placed you in the Caribbean and told you go to Pond dsalhf in Norway and gave you an empty GPS (with no maps)

How will you know where are you and where to go.

The eels don't have nothing to go on. Remember, at one point they were present at the point they're returning to; is it so completely beyond your comprehension that they could remember, perhaps instinctively, the magnetic orientation of that spot?

Every argument you make is dishonest in some way, maybe you should just give this up.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

I heard thread VI isn't as good as IV or V.

[pocaracas]

I heard thread VI isn't as good as IV or V.

VI was the best... V was a bit meh.... carbonite and stuff.
I'll never understand why they never made I, II and III....

[Jackalope]

I heard thread VI isn't as good as IV or V.

VI was the best... V was a bit meh.... carbonite and stuff.

LOL, no. Ewoks.

V > IV > VI >> III > II >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

[pocaracas]

VI was the best... V was a bit meh.... carbonite and stuff.

LOL, no. Ewoks.

V > IV > VI >> III > II >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

Ah... well remembered... I had shut them out of my memory!! Guess why?
But VI did have...

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[Faith No More]

Argument from...

[djdocsho]

Homing pigeons use a similar magnetic system for guidance...same as salmons...there's no god involved! Just like d sense of smell for dogs or vision in man....no miracle here...