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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof V
May 28, 2013 at 8:23 pm
(May 28, 2013 at 4:31 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: How can you navigate with just a compass???
You need to know your location and the target location directions related to yours (i.e. a map)
Yeah, the eels have nothing to guide them [end sarcasm]
Geomagnetic map.
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So, basically what you are doing is putting your ignorance on a pedestal and calling it 'God'.
Nice going!
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof V
May 28, 2013 at 8:41 pm
Has to be said, this thread aside they are amazing animals.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof V
May 29, 2013 at 1:52 am
(May 28, 2013 at 8:23 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Yeah, the eels have nothing to guide them [end sarcasm]
Geomagnetic map. Whatever you bring, it will need external data!
I should another option that
Eel leaned in schools to navigate geomagnetic maps
also each one got an ID card with his origin location
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof V
May 29, 2013 at 1:54 am
(May 29, 2013 at 1:52 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (May 28, 2013 at 8:23 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Yeah, the eels have nothing to guide them [end sarcasm]
Geomagnetic map. Whatever you bring, it will need external data!
I should another option that
Eel leaned in schools to navigate geomagnetic maps
also each one got an ID card with his origin location
No, I guess you did not read my post. They are learn and remember their way back from point of origin. No external data need.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof V
May 29, 2013 at 1:56 am
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(May 28, 2013 at 5:33 pm)djdocsho Wrote: Homing pigeons use a similar magnetic system for guidance...same as salmons...there's no god involved! Just like d sense of smell for dogs or vision in man....no miracle here... for any system to work they will need to know their origin and current location and these data must be external.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof V
May 29, 2013 at 2:04 am
(May 29, 2013 at 1:56 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (May 28, 2013 at 5:33 pm)djdocsho Wrote: Homing pigeons use a similar magnetic system for guidance...same as salmons...there's no god involved! Just like d sense of smell for dogs or vision in man....no miracle here... for any system to work they will need to know their origin and current location and these data must be external.
Really. Why is that? Because you say so? Because it's convenient for your argument?
As I recall, Dragonetti posted a decent description of one method that humans use to return to a point of origin without ever knowing where one is located, or without a map - using nothing but observations about one's surroundings.
As I was trained to utilize the same exact technique in the military, I can attest that it works.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof V
May 29, 2013 at 2:14 am
(May 29, 2013 at 1:52 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Whatever you bring, it will need external data!
I should another option that
Eel leaned in schools to navigate geomagnetic maps
also each one got an ID card with his origin location
Oh, external data like the two articles I posted yesterday, that lay out in detail how animals use magnetism to navigate without the need for an external force? The two articles you're ignoring now, because the facts are inconvenient to the dishonest, shoddy and lazily defended narrative you're half-heartedly trying to defend?
Maybe you should go back to school, fucker.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof V
May 29, 2013 at 2:41 am
(May 29, 2013 at 1:56 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (May 28, 2013 at 5:33 pm)djdocsho Wrote: Homing pigeons use a similar magnetic system for guidance...same as salmons...there's no god involved! Just like d sense of smell for dogs or vision in man....no miracle here... for any system to work they will need to know their origin and current location and these data must be external.
What's your PhD in?
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof V
May 29, 2013 at 3:29 am
(May 29, 2013 at 2:41 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: (May 29, 2013 at 1:56 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: for any system to work they will need to know their origin and current location and these data must be external.
What's your PhD in? In Algorithms from CALTECH
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof V
May 29, 2013 at 3:33 am
(May 29, 2013 at 3:29 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: In Algorithms from CALTECH
So, not a biologist, then?
Color me surprised.  hock:
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