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God as a monster
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God as a monster
July 22, 2013 at 4:07 am
By its very definition, a monster is something that exists outside of nature. If god exists outside of nature, then he is a monster.

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RE: God as a monster
July 22, 2013 at 4:22 am (This post was last modified: July 22, 2013 at 4:51 am by genkaus.)
(July 22, 2013 at 4:07 am)Maelstrom Wrote: By its very definition, a monster is something that exists outside of nature. If god exists outside of nature, then he is a monster.

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Association fallacy:

All dogs have four legs.
My cat has four legs.
Therefore, my cat is a dog.

Similarly,

Monsters exist outside nature.
God exists outside nature.
Therefore, god is a monster.

Edit: By the way, did you get that definition of monster from the latest episode of Dexter?
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RE: God as a monster
July 22, 2013 at 5:23 am
The bible is pretty good evidence that god is a monster.
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RE: God as a monster
July 22, 2013 at 12:12 pm
(July 22, 2013 at 5:23 am)Zen Badger Wrote: The bible is pretty good evidence that god is a monster.
I was gonna say this. Being "not of this world" has nothing to do with it. It's the hate and the killing.
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RE: God as a monster
July 22, 2013 at 12:19 pm
(July 22, 2013 at 4:07 am)Maelstrom Wrote: By its very definition, a monster is something that exists outside of nature. If god exists outside of nature, then he is a monster.

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There's no fixed definition of monster, it could be used to describe something of extraordinary size, I've seen it used plenty of times in porn.


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RE: God as a monster
July 22, 2013 at 12:38 pm
There are no monsters. There are no gods.
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RE: God as a monster
July 22, 2013 at 4:13 pm
Nice shot, Genkaus! You hit the bullseye with the Association Fallacy example!

But, yes, the God described in the Bible would meet the definition of a conventional monster. Min has it right though: No monsters and no gods.
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RE: God as a monster
July 22, 2013 at 4:17 pm
(July 22, 2013 at 4:07 am)Maelstrom Wrote: By its very definition, a monster is something that exists outside of nature. If god exists outside of nature, then he is a monster.

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I`ll just stick to the definitions used in one of my favorite science fiction movies and hereby declare god to be a :

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RE: God as a monster
July 22, 2013 at 4:22 pm
Monster means a lot of things. Did any of you happen to read Middlesex by Jeffrey Eugenides? There's a scene in that book where the protagonist, having gone home after seeing the doctor, looked up the doctor's diagnosis (hermaphrodite) in a dictionary, and then after describing what it is, the dictionary has a note that says: see also monster .

Yea that had nothing to do with this, just reminds me of it. Uhm, anyway, how a monster is defined in an online dictionary:
Quote:mon•ster (ˈmɒn stər)

n.
1. any animal or human grotesquely deviating from the normal shape, behavior, or character.
2. a person who excites horror by wickedness, cruelty, etc.
3. any creature so ugly or monstrous as to frighten people.
4. any animal or thing huge in size.
5. a legendary creature having a body with both human and animal features, or the features of various animals in combination, as a centaur, griffin, or sphinx.
6. a markedly malformed animal or plant.
7. a grossly anomalous fetus or infant, esp. one that is not viable.
adj.
8. huge; monstrous.
god would fit 2. if god is a person. but it's just a figment of our imagination. plenty of god's followers would easily fit into this definition though.
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RE: God as a monster
July 22, 2013 at 5:09 pm
(July 22, 2013 at 4:07 am)Maelstrom Wrote: By its very definition, a monster is something that exists outside of nature. If god exists outside of nature, then he is a monster.

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This god begs to differ:

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