Ignorance Behind the Seven Deadly Sins

[genkaus]

I think everyone knows this, but I'll say it anyway. There's a simple formula: Any action done without love will ultimately hurt the doer and whoever's around.

Bullshit.

When was the last time any of the "seven deadly sins" produced long term benefits? Have you ever looked back and thought "I'm glad I was greedy that one time" or "Lust felt awesome back then. I'm going to try it again"? These sins have to do with wanting more than you can get. How can they ever satisfy you?

They are working out great for me right now. Lust feels awesome - I am going to try it many more times. And I really wish I'll become more greedy in future. As for wanting more than I can get - I do not subject myself to such arbitrary limitations (that's pride). I find all this sinning to be extremely satisfying.

[Bad Writer]

I think everyone knows this, but I'll say it anyway. There's a simple formula: Any action done without love will ultimately hurt the doer and whoever's around. When was the last time any of the "seven deadly sins" produced long term benefits? Have you ever looked back and thought "I'm glad I was greedy that one time" or "Lust felt awesome back then. I'm going to try it again"? These sins have to do with wanting more than you can get. How can they ever satisfy you?

It's not about satisfaction. Anger, envy, and pride are in many cases very useful. If the early colonies in America hasn't been angry about their situation, they would have never started a revolution. If we aren't envious on an individual level of what we might become, then humans would never better themselves. Pride helps people take stock in what's really important in life, such as family, friends, and their accomplishments.

I think lust can have some long lasting benefits too. If I hadn't been attracted to and lusted after my wife, we would not be married now. If I got rid of lust, we would no longer have sex. Greed I don't have much to say for, but sloth is interesting. I mean, are we bad people for taking a break sometimes? Even Yahweh took a break on the seventh day of the creation story.

I think you need to reevaluate what has long lasting effects and what doesn't before dismissing any worth to these supposed sins.

[Michael Schubert]

Gotta love logic, don't you think? It is something that Christian fundamentalists don't have much of.

We have more than you do. MS-0 logical thoughts, a Christian 1 logical thought, Christian wins.

Pretty typical response, Godschild. I suggest you get off of Atheist Forums and go listen to Pat Robertson and Bryan Fischer.

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.... You do know that the bible does not identify these sins as being any more 'deadly' as any other sin right? In fact it says all sin is the same except one, and it can not be forgiven.

This is the difference between Biblical christianity and the doctrines of christianity created by man. "The seven deadly sins" is a doctrine of man, that has it's roots grounded in a general observation of human behaivor, and not scripture.

All biblical Christianity was made by humans. The Bible was written by men, not God(s). As I have also noted in a previous thread, the Holy Bible is not based on any primary research that anyone did. The writers made it all up off the top of their heads.

[Undeceived]

I think everyone knows this, but I'll say it anyway. There's a simple formula: Any action done without love will ultimately hurt the doer and whoever's around. When was the last time any of the "seven deadly sins" produced long term benefits? Have you ever looked back and thought "I'm glad I was greedy that one time" or "Lust felt awesome back then. I'm going to try it again"? These sins have to do with wanting more than you can get. How can they ever satisfy you?

It's not about satisfaction. Anger, envy, and pride are in many cases very useful. If the early colonies in America hasn't been angry about their situation, they would have never started a revolution. If we aren't envious on an individual level of what we might become, then humans would never better themselves. Pride helps people take stock in what's really important in life, such as family, friends, and their accomplishments.

I think lust can have some long lasting benefits too. If I hadn't been attracted to and lusted after my wife, we would not be married now. If I got rid of lust, we would no longer have sex. Greed I don't have much to say for, but sloth is interesting. I mean, are we bad people for taking a break sometimes? Even Yahweh took a break on the seventh day of the creation story.

Let's get the definitions straight. From Dictionary.com

Lust: "uncontrolled or illicit sexual desire or appetite"

Greed: "excessive or rapacious desire, especially for wealth or possessions"

There is a healthy attraction to people, and then there is "uncontrolled desire". There is a healthy desire to have one's needs met, and then there is "rapacious desire". Suppose the early colonies were 100% content with their situation. They would have been happy with what they had, and thousands would not have died. BadWriterSparty, do you mean to argue for an objective level of happiness? Do you really believe that getting more things results in greater contentment?

[Minimalist]

.... You do know that the bible does not identify these sins as being any more 'deadly' as any other sin right? In fact it says all sin is the same except one, and it can not be forgiven.

This is the difference between Biblical christianity and the doctrines of christianity created by man. "The seven deadly sins" is a doctrine of man, that has it's roots grounded in a general observation of human behaivor, and not scripture.

Since I shit all over you when you are wrong - which happens a lot - I have to take note when you get one right.

The 7 Deadly Sins was concocted in the late 6th century by Gregory I who adapted it from the work of an earlier 4th century monk named Evagrius Ponticus.

One point for Drippy. You are now only about 600 points in the hole.

[Drich]

.... You do know that the bible does not identify these sins as being any more 'deadly' as any other sin right? In fact it says all sin is the same except one, and it can not be forgiven.

This is the difference between Biblical christianity and the doctrines of christianity created by man. "The seven deadly sins" is a doctrine of man, that has it's roots grounded in a general observation of human behaivor, and not scripture.

Since I shit all over you when you are wrong - which happens a lot - I have to take note when you get one right.

The 7 Deadly Sins was concocted in the late 6th century by Gregory I who adapted it from the work of an earlier 4th century monk named Evagrius Ponticus.

One point for Drippy. You are now only about 600 points in the hole.

mighty white of you to admit when your wrong Minnie, but I am not keeping score. Even if it was just you knowing you were wrong and i was right is enough for me.

[Walking Void]

Christians arguing that god is too good to be sinful or beyond sin... is that not pride?

[Minimalist]

mighty white of you to admit when your wrong Minnie

I wasn't wrong, Asswipe. I confirmed that you were right. Hardly the same thing.

And I DO keep score. You and jesus are going down the shitter together.

But you were right about this particularly silly bit of xtian bullshit.