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A New Twist in the Climate Change Debate?
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A New Twist in the Climate Change Debate?
A report in the UK edition of The Economist based on what it says is a leaked draft of the September IPCC report is claiming the IPCC is set to revise its estimate of Climate Sensitivity downwards.

Climate Sensitivity (the extent to which the world will warm as Carbon Dioxide levels rise) for a doubling in Co2 levels was set between 2 and 4.5 Deg C, the report says this will change to 1.5 and 4.5 Deg C. It was suggested that the reason for the change is that CO2 levels have been rising over the past decade without much surface warming.

Most scientists think this could be just a blip and other methods used to calculate climate sensitivity have not changed.

The Economist - Climate science: A sensitive matter

Whatever the reason this is likely to lead to further comments from pressure groups and individuals who argue against Climate Change as a result of Carbon Dioxide (and other) emissions.

The IPCC have neither confirmed or denied these figures.


MM
"The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci

"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
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#2
RE: A New Twist in the Climate Change Debate?
Climate change deniers dont give a fuck if the science backs them up or not.

What motivates them is stuborn ignorance.
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#3
RE: A New Twist in the Climate Change Debate?
As long as the oil company's profits remain high they won't care.

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#4
RE: A New Twist in the Climate Change Debate?
(August 11, 2013 at 6:21 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: Climate change deniers dont give a fuck if the science backs them up or not.

What motivates them is stuborn ignorance.


When I'm told the CIA working with the Mafia shot the guy who wrote the real report on climate change with a missile loaded on a 747 from a movie set that was used for the moon landings, I find it curiously compelling.


MM
"The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci

"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
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#5
RE: A New Twist in the Climate Change Debate?
Nothing to see here, please move along...

Marine Life Affected

The New Normal

Sea Ice at Record Low Levels

Russia Experiences Great Burning

Headed for Rewable Energy? Think Again!

Arctic Sea Ice Disappearing at an Unprecedented Rate

As noted in the final article, "unprecedented." A word with which we are becoming all too familiar. I wonder, at what point does it just become precedented and shitty, all at the same time?

Don't even get me started.
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#6
RE: A New Twist in the Climate Change Debate?
I'm sure the few remaining polar bears will breathe a sigh of relief.
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#7
RE: A New Twist in the Climate Change Debate?
(August 11, 2013 at 6:21 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: Climate change deniers dont give a fuck if the science backs them up or not.

What motivates them is stuborn ignorance.
Exactly. They don't give a shit, so long as they can pollute as much as they want.
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#8
RE: A New Twist in the Climate Change Debate?
Lots of problems with the analysis of the draft report done by The Economist. See the link for where they got it wrong.


http://www.skepticalscience.com/economis...ivity.html
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RE: A New Twist in the Climate Change Debate?
(August 12, 2013 at 10:26 am)popeyespappy Wrote: Lots of problems with the analysis of the draft report done by The Economist. See the link for where they got it wrong.


http://www.skepticalscience.com/economis...ivity.html

Interesting, thanks for the post.


MM
"The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci

"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
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RE: A New Twist in the Climate Change Debate?
(August 12, 2013 at 10:26 am)popeyespappy Wrote: Lots of problems with the analysis of the draft report done by The Economist. See the link for where they got it wrong.


http://www.skepticalscience.com/economis...ivity.html

Even if The Economist amends/recalls it's report, the original will be sourced as scientific evidence that global warming 'taint all that bad'. The damage is done. I'd say the writers knew exactly what outcome they hoped to achieve presenting it.

Schmucks.
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