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Manning states, "I am female"
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Manning states, "I am female"
Quote:One day after being sentenced to 35 years in prison for leaking vast archives of secret government files to WikiLeaks, Pfc. Bradley Manning said Thursday that he is female and wants to be known as Chelsea.

In a statement read on the “Today” show during an appearance by his defense lawyer, David E. Coombs, Private Manning said he had felt that he was female since childhood, a fact that was discussed during his court-martial.

“As I transition into this next phase of my life, I want everyone to know the real me,” the statement said. “I am Chelsea Manning. I am a female. Given the way that I feel, and have felt since childhood, I want to begin hormone therapy as soon as possible. I hope that you will support me in this transition.”

Private Manning’s decision to live as a woman raises questions of how the Army prison at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., where he will be held, will respond. A spokeswoman for the prison recently told Courthouse News that the prison does not provide hormone therapy or gender-reassignment surgery. As is the case for all soldiers, transgender inmates are only eligible for psychiatric care, she said.

When asked whether Private Manning’s ultimate goal was to be housed in prison with women, instead of men, Mr. Coombs said, “No, I think the ultimate goal is to be comfortable in her skin and to be the person that she’s never had an opportunity to be.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/23/us/bra...emale.html

I have been a supporter of Manning since I first learned of his whistle blowing. Of course, since I pay little attention to the news, I learned of him months after the incident was made public via the media.

The fact that the country would punish him for exposing the corruption within our government only further engenders my distrust and dislike for this country.
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RE: Manning states, "I am female"
Is it possible that he might make this claim this so he will be transfered to a different prison, get some other legal benefits or to simply complicate legal procedures?
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RE: Manning states, "I am female"
(August 22, 2013 at 12:36 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: Is it possible that he might make this claim this so he will be transfered to a different prison, get some other legal benefits or to simply complicate legal procedures?

Already mentioned above:

Quote:When asked whether Private Manning’s ultimate goal was to be housed in prison with women, instead of men, Mr. Coombs said, “No, I think the ultimate goal is to be comfortable in her skin and to be the person that she’s never had an opportunity to be.”
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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RE: Manning states, "I am female"
(August 22, 2013 at 12:37 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:
(August 22, 2013 at 12:36 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: Is it possible that he might make this claim this so he will be transfered to a different prison, get some other legal benefits or to simply complicate legal procedures?

Already mentioned above:

Quote:When asked whether Private Manning’s ultimate goal was to be housed in prison with women, instead of men, Mr. Coombs said, “No, I think the ultimate goal is to be comfortable in her skin and to be the person that she’s never had an opportunity to be.”

TGAC's question is still valid. This tells us nothing.
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RE: Manning states, "I am female"
(August 22, 2013 at 12:37 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:
(August 22, 2013 at 12:36 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: Is it possible that he might make this claim this so he will be transfered to a different prison, get some other legal benefits or to simply complicate legal procedures?

Already mentioned above:

Quote:When asked whether Private Manning’s ultimate goal was to be housed in prison with women, instead of men, Mr. Coombs said, “No, I think the ultimate goal is to be comfortable in her skin and to be the person that she’s never had an opportunity to be.”

My question does not implicate any kind of judgement over Manning aswell as his actions.
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RE: Manning states, "I am female"
The timing is a bit...suspicious.
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RE: Manning states, "I am female"
(August 22, 2013 at 4:26 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote: The timing is a bit...suspicious.

This was all discussed during the court-marital, including photos of him dressed as a woman. It's highly likely he was advised by his lawyer to avoid publicly mentioning this until sentencing was over.

The thing that sickens me is that someone believed this was relevant evidence for his court-martial. He should be judged on his actions alone.
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RE: Manning states, "I am female"
(August 22, 2013 at 4:35 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(August 22, 2013 at 4:26 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote: The timing is a bit...suspicious.

This was all discussed during the court-marital, including photos of him dressed as a woman. It's highly likely he was advised by his lawyer to avoid publicly mentioning this until sentencing was over.

The thing that sickens me is that someone believed this was relevant evidence for his court-martial. He should be judged on his actions alone.

Depends on the dress.
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RE: Manning states, "I am female"
Welll, assuming this is genuine, I hope it all works out for him.
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RE: Manning states, "I am female"
(August 22, 2013 at 4:35 pm)Faith No More Wrote: The thing that sickens me is that someone believed this was relevant evidence for his court-martial. He should be judged on his actions alone.
I believe it was the defense that used it, to show that he was in a fragile mental state and stressed, so therefore more likely to have acted without properly thinking about the consequences.
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