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Can you Name a Single Successful Government Program?
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Can you Name a Single Successful Government Program?
I'm serious, show me one single successful government program or law, and I will accept the government as valid.

The welfare state, since it's inception has created a higher wealth gap and higher unemployment than when it started.

The "War on drugs" has not changed people's use of recreational drugs, it has remained exactly the same, the only difference is some people are thrown in cages for owning a plant and thousands of dollars are taken from each citizen in tax money.

Public schools, when it was first introduced, literacy rates went down.

"The War on Terror" boils down to bombing hundreds of thousands of brown people, many civilians. Which is terrorism by definition, bombing civilians houses is terrorism.

Making it illegal to work for low wages (shockingly!) made it worse for the poor. higher unemployment particularly with minorities and youth.

Everything the government claims they will achieve, the opposite happens. So please, I implore you, find me any government program that has worked.

The rules:

- The program's results has to coincide with what the government claims they are going to achieve.

- It can not be curing a problem they created in the first place. I.e, taking everyone's money to fund a war then giving them rations while saying "We would be starving without the government" is not acceptable.

- The evidence has to be outside of government studies. Any studies from the government will not be accepted. It's like expecting objective information about coca-cola products from coca-cola. It's obviously going to be biased.
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RE: Can you Name a Single Successful Government Program?
You are living proof that libertarians are fucking idiots.
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RE: Can you Name a Single Successful Government Program?
(August 23, 2013 at 12:41 pm)Koolay Wrote: I'm serious, show me one single successful government program or law, and I will accept the government as valid.

I am no more a fan of government than you, but goodness gracious do you give people like me a bad reputation.
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RE: Can you Name a Single Successful Government Program?
Project Mercury (1959–63)
Project Gemini (1961–66)
Project Apollo (1961–72)

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RE: Can you Name a Single Successful Government Program?
(August 23, 2013 at 12:43 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You are living proof that libertarians are fucking idiots.
What does that make me then?

Also, Libertarians accept government as valid. He sounds more like an anarchist.
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RE: Can you Name a Single Successful Government Program?
I hear that Medicare is actually doing OK. I'm sure all those people on it would agree.
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RE: Can you Name a Single Successful Government Program?
(August 23, 2013 at 12:55 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: I hear that Medicare is actually doing OK. I'm sure all those people on it would agree.

Has Medicare made people healthier since it's inception? Where is the independent evidence I asked for?
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RE: Can you Name a Single Successful Government Program?
Well it's helped people not die by helping them get medical care they otherwise could not afford, so I'd say yes.
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RE: Can you Name a Single Successful Government Program?
(August 23, 2013 at 1:09 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Well it's helped people not die by helping them get medical care they otherwise could not afford, so I'd say yes.

And why can't they afford healthcare?
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RE: Can you Name a Single Successful Government Program?
(August 23, 2013 at 1:04 pm)Koolay Wrote:
(August 23, 2013 at 12:55 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: I hear that Medicare is actually doing OK. I'm sure all those people on it would agree.

Has Medicare made people healthier since it's inception? Where is the independent evidence I asked for?

Where is your independent evidence for how public schools aren't successful? Because the literacy rate went down at the beginning of their inception? The literacy rate of kids age 15 or younger today, because of public schools and the availability of education, is 99%. Pretty successful if you ask me.
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