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Marijuana Overdose
#31
RE: Marijuana Overdose
(September 6, 2013 at 3:36 pm)Heir Apparent Wrote: Not a huge fan of smoking the stuff myself, but I loved the picture.

Countering my initial statement: as a Crohn's sufferer, I'm hoping they are able to make a sound link to marijuana and the recession of symptoms in the near future. I know Israel is studying it at the moment. Then PA has to legalize and I'll be all set.

I'd be okay with edibles or a vaporizer to combat it, even though my case is quite mild. Risking losing credbility to my man-status, l find smoking out of a pipe is just a tad bit uncomfortable for me. Haven't tried bubblers or bongs to date.

I'd infinitely rather use a natural herb as a remedy than the risky and even potentially dangerous pills that are the current anti-Crohn's standard.

Argh I have Chrones, tooSad
Once medicinal marijuana is legal in PA, get your gastroenterologist or a pain specialist to prescribe Marinol. It's far more reliable than edibles dose-age wise, and edibles can give you a roller coaster ride if not mixed adequately (which doesn't help with the nausea).
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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#32
RE: Marijuana Overdose
(September 5, 2013 at 10:29 am)max-greece Wrote: we will all be knee deep in Pandas in a few years.

We already are. In the past year scores of panda cubs were born.
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#33
RE: Marijuana Overdose
There seems to be a lot of confusion on this thread.

Let me start with the notion that being too high can actually be quite unfun.

Marijuana does not have a toxic point, but it certainly can bring you to a point you might not enjoy as much.

Just like Acid isn't for everyone.

Moderation is key also to avoiding sky high tolerance peaks. Peaks that don't decrease much in six months of abstaining, which is disappointing.
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#34
RE: Marijuana Overdose
(September 7, 2013 at 2:42 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Just like Acid isn't for everyone.

You got that right.
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#35
RE: Marijuana Overdose
Quote:Marijuana does not have a toxic point

The pills have been known to cause at least 4 deaths. But those are pharmaceutically altered forms of THC.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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#36
RE: Marijuana Overdose
(September 8, 2013 at 3:26 pm)missluckie26 Wrote:
Quote:Marijuana does not have a toxic point

The pills have been known to cause at least 4 deaths. But those are pharmaceutically altered forms of THC.

Yeah, that is marinol. Not exactly the same as the natural stuff. Wink
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#37
RE: Marijuana Overdose
(September 7, 2013 at 3:36 am)missluckie26 Wrote:
(September 6, 2013 at 3:36 pm)Heir Apparent Wrote: Not a huge fan of smoking the stuff myself, but I loved the picture.

Countering my initial statement: as a Crohn's sufferer, I'm hoping they are able to make a sound link to marijuana and the recession of symptoms in the near future. I know Israel is studying it at the moment. Then PA has to legalize and I'll be all set.

I'd be okay with edibles or a vaporizer to combat it, even though my case is quite mild. Risking losing credbility to my man-status, l find smoking out of a pipe is just a tad bit uncomfortable for me. Haven't tried bubblers or bongs to date.

I'd infinitely rather use a natural herb as a remedy than the risky and even potentially dangerous pills that are the current anti-Crohn's standard.

Argh I have Chrones, tooSad
Once medicinal marijuana is legal in PA, get your gastroenterologist or a pain specialist to prescribe Marinol. It's far more reliable than edibles dose-age wise, and edibles can give you a roller coaster ride if not mixed adequately (which doesn't help with the nausea).

A partner in suffering! Smile

Thank you for the advice. I'm sure it will be an uphill battle for this state though. Between bouncing around doctors, lab work, insurance etc I'm already tired of dealing with it.

Other than that though, my symptoms are pretty mild from what I've heard from others who have it, so long as I avoid trigger foods.
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#38
RE: Marijuana Overdose
(September 8, 2013 at 3:26 pm)missluckie26 Wrote:
Quote:Marijuana does not have a toxic point

The pills have been known to cause at least 4 deaths. But those are pharmaceutically altered forms of THC.

With regards to Marinol, Marinol is to Marijuana as Opium is to Poppies. It's a highly concentrated, select form of Delta-9-THC. Marijuana, the plant, has well over fifty other psychoactive chemicals.

Wikipedia on THC Wrote:Mark Kleiman, director of the Drug Policy Analysis Program at UCLA's School of Public Affairs said of Marinol, "It wasn't any fun and made the user feel bad, so it could be approved without any fear that it would penetrate the recreational market, and then used as a club with which to beat back the advocates of whole cannabis as a medicine.".

With regards to synthetic THC shit like JWH, there is no relation between JWH and anything you find in marijuana.

JWH and friends are completely different molecules that just happen to produce similar effects via similar active sites, but that is about as far as a comparison can be made. Different atomic makeup, different configuration.

So far, we've seen little to no evidence of Marijuana "overdose" (as in the plant, proper).

Of course, from what I've observed in people, they ascribe the word "overdose" to commonly mean "It's not going well", as opposed to "I am going to die".

Which means that claims of marijuana overdoses will possibly rise, if only by virtue of incredibly poor terminology in popular culture.
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#39
RE: Marijuana Overdose
(September 8, 2013 at 4:15 pm)Heir Apparent Wrote: A partner in suffering! Smile

Thank you for the advice. I'm sure it will be an uphill battle for this state though. Between bouncing around doctors, lab work, insurance etc I'm already tired of dealing with it.

Other than that though, my symptoms are pretty mild from what I've heard from others who have it, so long as I avoid trigger foods.

Yeah, I got collitis so badly I was losing a pound a day in the hospital for a month! Sure wish they'd let me use my vaporizer in there.. We tried but the nurses said they could smell it so it's best I didn't Tongue

I contribute my survival to marijuana.. I was in rocking day and night pain for a year until my mom got me some greens. I think they're as close a thing to a miracle drug as there are.. I was misdiagnosed for 5yrs, the whole time being given cytoxan (which worsened the gastrointestinal symptoms), rituxan, and IVIG. They even had to do plasmapheresis because they were just absolutely certain I didn't have Chrones and didn't want to prescribe me Remicaid. That entire time, I smoked 24/7 and probably would have killed myself if I didn't have it. I'm now certain they were the ones trying to kill me. Tongue
Eventually I ended up in the ICU for a heart clot their IV chest port caused and some pain specialist took pity on me and gave me some Marinol, and I got new doctors who got me goin on Remicaid. As my pain receded, so did my need for fentanyl and marijuana and marinol. Now I'm on nothing and after having lived so long high: I'm lovin itSmile

Moros, I was just saying that anything can become potent when we get ahold of it and alter it.. I'm concerned with the percentage of THC they're able to harness through selective breeding. Drink too much 40%er crhonic hash oil or eat the butter straight like my uncle did, and I guarantee you could die. Potheads just aren't that stupid Tongue
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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#40
RE: Marijuana Overdose
I'd like to have empirical data on it, preferably from something like NIH.

Last time I chatted with a biochemist friend of mine, we figured it had to be something that could be injected to get to deadly levels.

Not something that could be realistically vaporized, smoked or eaten.
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