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Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
#21
RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
Perhaps global warming will do the trick? I suppose that would be something quite impressive if something we were to see happen.
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#22
RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
(September 16, 2013 at 1:02 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(September 16, 2013 at 12:53 am)Godschild Wrote: Typically ignorant, all you care about is tearing others down that think differently than yourself, that's defined as bigoted, now go back and read my religious view, yes read it and weep.

Yes it says southren babtist.

You must need glasses, I said read my "religious view," again read it and weep.

Quote:Funny thing bout the bigoted aspect is that your religion teaches that I deserved to tormented for eternity because I believe differently then you.
However I do not care about tearing you down, just the post you made was really dumb.

There was nothing wrong with my post, it's all in your ego.

Godschild Wrote:Min and someone else did this to death with no agreements, the old city is gone, and a new one is built this was the whole argument. Just like Hiroshima was gone and now is rebuilt. The old one is forever gone and now there's a new one. All I got to say.
LemonVariable72 Wrote:14 I will make you a bare rock, and you will become a place to spread fishnets. You will never be rebuilt, for I the Lord have spoken, declares the Sovereign Lord.
Your argument was addressed by me right there.
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Of coarse I addressed it to you. But just like Hiroshima, the old city is gone, neither old city was rebuilt, new ones were put in their place. The World Trade Center could have been rebuilt exactly like they were, yet the new ones would not be the the old ones, just because a place keeps it's name does not mean it's the same as the old one. Is this beyond your comprehension.

Smile GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#23
RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
(September 16, 2013 at 1:16 am)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote: I have a better argument...

Lalala


Looks like that what GC pretty much did with Deist Paladin's post.

Undecided

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#24
RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
I hope you remain with us for a long time GC, I truly do. If not for standing in testimony to what religion can do for a mind...
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#25
RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
(September 16, 2013 at 1:06 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(September 16, 2013 at 1:02 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Yes it says southren babtist.

You must need glasses, I said read my "religious view," again read it and weep.

Quote:Funny thing bout the bigoted aspect is that your religion teaches that I deserved to tormented for eternity because I believe differently then you.
However I do not care about tearing you down, just the post you made was really dumb.

There was nothing wrong with my post, it's all in your ego.

Godschild Wrote:Min and someone else did this to death with no agreements, the old city is gone, and a new one is built this was the whole argument. Just like Hiroshima was gone and now is rebuilt. The old one is forever gone and now there's a new one. All I got to say.
LemonVariable72 Wrote:14 I will make you a bare rock, and you will become a place to spread fishnets. You will never be rebuilt, for I the Lord have spoken, declares the Sovereign Lord.
Your argument was addressed by me right there.

Of coarse I addressed it to you. But just like Hiroshima, the old city is gone, neither old city was rebuilt, new ones were put in their place. The World Trade Center could have been rebuilt exactly like they were, yet the new ones would not be the the old ones, just because a place keeps it's name does not mean it's the same as the old one. Is this beyond your comprehension.

Smile GC
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Just in case my original post wasn't clear
lemonvariable72 Wrote:19 “This is what the Sovereign Lord says: When I make you a desolate city, like cities no longer inhabited, and when I bring the ocean depths over you and its vast waters cover you, 20 then I will bring you down with those who go down to the pit, to the people of long ago. I will make you dwell in the earth below, as in ancient ruins, with those who go down to the pit, and you will not return or take your place[c] in the land of the living. 21 I will bring you to a horrible end and you will be no more. You will be sought, but you will never again be found, declares the Sovereign Lord.”
Now the old part of the city was never under water as is easily found. Btw why would I weep at your religious view you think I never met a southern Baptist before?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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#26
RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
Maybe I'm overthinking this, but isn't everything that's rebuilt a replacement for what was there before?

The point, of course, is that the story says that Tyre would be flattened (to continue the joke) and never be rebuilt. In order for that prophecy to count as a hit, there would have to be no city called Tyre built on that site ever again - that's what "never" means.

This really shouldn't be this hard.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#27
RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
What G-C's "god" said about Tyre.

[Image: ocean-9.jpg]

Quote:For thus saith the Lord GOD; When I shall make thee a desolate city, like the cities that are not inhabited; when I shall bring up the deep upon thee, and great waters shall cover thee;

Meanwhile.....

[Image: tyreport.jpg]

Tyre blissfully moves on with life completely oblivious to the fact that they have been "desolated" and are "uninhabited." G-C with his holy blinders can see no difference in these pictures.

G-C is batshit crazy.
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#28
RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
I find it interesting that YHWH would use a pagan like Alexander as the instrument of Tyre's destruction(*).

(*) For some definitions of "destruction". More like half-destruction. (c.f. "Captured")

Furthermore, It must have been quite the shock to Antigonus (when he lay siege to Tyre in 315 BCE) that Alexander had utterly destroyed it 17 years earlier in 332 BCE, never to be rebuilt or found again.

Go figure.
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#29
RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
They lacked nukes in those times.
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#30
RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
(September 16, 2013 at 1:06 pm)Godschild Wrote: But just like Hiroshima, the old city is gone, neither old city was rebuilt, new ones were put in their place.

When and by whom was it destroyed, GC? Alexander sure as shit didn't. He did destroy the adjacent mainland settlement of Ushu, but the city of Tyre was captured, not destroyed - not by Alexander, or anyone else.
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