Convince me of your political philosophy.

[KichigaiNeko]

I'm about to move out of this religious philosophy shit, and move into politics. Surely it will hurt my head less.

Before I start my readings, tell me what you guys think the best political system is!

My personal opinion before reading: My mind heads towards socialism and Marxism, but I believe capitalism has been the most successful. Democracy gives great freedoms, but as Churchill said "The strongest argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter."

I live in America, and these people are fucking stupid. I'm sorry if my country pisses you guys off sometimes. If I had things my way, I'd be born in Britain.

No

[InevitableCheese]

People here are generally quite ignorant to politics, and the people they elect.

64% of our population usually votes. And hardly any of them know anything.

[Brian37]

I'm about to move out of this religious philosophy shit, and move into politics. Surely it will hurt my head less.

Before I start my readings, tell me what you guys think the best political system is!

My personal opinion before reading: My mind heads towards socialism and Marxism, but I believe capitalism has been the most successful. Democracy gives great freedoms, but as Churchill said "The strongest argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter."

I live in America, and these people are fucking stupid. I'm sorry if my country pisses you guys off sometimes. If I had things my way, I'd be born in Britain.

I hate the misuse of the word "capitalism". It is falsely defined as a form of government. IT IS NOT. It is simply the action of gaining resources to maintain power. China's communist party has to have money to keep and maintain it's power. It does so by selling cheap crap through slave wages and labor to the rest of the world. Gadaffi was a billionaire who owned stock in GE.

All human ventures, be they political, religious or business, require the same thing to gain power and keep power. MONEY.

Anything that gets too big can become abusive.

I am am not an either/or guy when it comes to economics. I do not want to end the private sector, but I do want to end the abuse of big money which has way to much influence in our political system.

I'd like to see America get back to what it did after WW2 when taxes where much higher on the rich, when we had tons of investment, lower pay gap and virtually dirt cheap higher education.

Libertarians and republicans spew the phrase "less government", and in theory it sounds nice. The problem is the pay gap. If the people who shout this as business owners would give more directly to the worker that "less dependency" could happen.

What we have today because of global corporatism is a race to the bottom and corporate welfare. There IS a redistribution of wealth, but it is going from the bottom to the top.

The correct term to be used is "free market". But even then we don't really have a "free market", we have an extraction market because we are trying to copy the immoral standards of the sweat shops of India and China to compete.

I am for business, when it does the right thing, like the fast food joint Moo Cluck Moo or bulk store Costco. I am not however for the totality of most big business which is nothing more than "fuck you I got mine".

Abuse of power is the issue. Not pro business vs anti business.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

People here are generally quite ignorant to politics, and the people they elect.

64% of our population usually votes. And hardly any of them know anything.

Choosing between a rock and a hard place with this one, I'm afraid.

[Darth]

Women in lakes with named swords should select rulers by bestowing their chosen candidate with said sword.

People should be free to do as they please*, provided they don't attack anybody else or steal their shit*. Libertarianism, we have cookies, but buy your own you moocher, they're mine.




*That includes not having to work until July each year for no pay so that someone else can spend 100K of your money on obtaining an arts degree that qualifies them only to become a sandwich artist.

[Brian37]

Women in lakes with named swords should select rulers by bestowing their chosen candidate with said sword.

People should be free to do as they please*, provided they don't attack anybody else or steal their shit*. Libertarianism, we have cookies, but buy your own you moocher, they're mine.




*That includes not having to work until July each year for no pay so that someone else can spend 100K of your money on obtaining an arts degree that qualifies them only to become a sandwich artist.

That "sandwich artist" makes the owner rich, so fuck you. I am a dishwasher, do yourself a favor, never eat where I work because I would spit in your food. I don't mind rich people, I do HATE jaded assholes who live in a bubble.

There is robbery going on and it is corporate welfare.

Social programs get gutted, college fees go up, to pay for tax cuts for the rich.

You want "less government" fine, then give directly to the worker more on your own. But do not bitch when the other two classes vote and win.

Libertarians and republicans call it fair when they get what they want, but when they lose an election, suddenly it is tyranny.

30 years of record profits and exploding pay gap is enough evidence for me to know what we have been doing IS NOT working.

[5thHorseman]

becoming less of a lefty than i was, more inclined, these days anyway, towards old school liberalism, but i do believe in state healthcare and education.......but not a lot else.......also like Hayek's ideas of creating competition. In other words, breaking up monopolies.

I'm quite a mix.

[Brian37]

becoming less of a lefty than i was, more inclined, these days anyway, towards old school liberalism, but i do believe in state healthcare and education.......but not a lot else.......also like Hayek's ideas of creating competition. In other words, breaking up monopolies.

I'm quite a mix.

THANK YOU!

China's political monopoly is the same as Iran's religious monopoly is the same as the 1%'s monopoly. ANYTHING left to it's own devices can become abusive and all those human run entities require the same thing to gain the monopoly of power. MONEY.

Break up the monopolies. A very Jeffersonian anti trust idea, and exactly what the First Amendment amounts to, an anti-trust law.

On paper "less government" sounds nice, but the conditions for that to happen are simply not there right now. If we had a government like we did after WW2 and an anti trust President like Teddy Roosevelt, I think we could really fix things.

But right now we are owned by corporate welfare precisely because of the influence of big money on politics.

[c172]

Boy. I dunno. I lean left socially. I don't understand our hangup on gay marriage. But also I'm not big on affirmative action in certain circumstances.

Structurally, I'm rather intrigued by Nebraska's use of a unicameral Legislature. I wonder why that state bucks the tradition here. I also think that our way of counting the vote is needlessly hard. I'm not sure that I feel more important to society because I'm from California and not Delaware, which seems like a fine state even though it gets only 3 electoral votes. I would not miss the College if a suitable alternative were found.

[Brian37]

I like the electoral college. I think it gets a bad wrap. It is simply a form of anti trust to remind people long term that their is no mob rule by vote. It is an ugly hiccup, yes. But it is designed just like the idea of separation of the three branches of government.

People think that voting alone constitutes a democracy, but it cannot. Voters also must have a check on their power too otherwise voting is nothing more than a mob dictatorship.

The concepts of western pluralism is that both the government and the voter are GUIDES, not absolutes. The protection of dissent is just as important as the protection of the majority. You can judge a government by how it treats the least among them.