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God's Tools
Michael Schubert Offline
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God's Tools
September 21, 2013 at 4:20 pm (This post was last modified: September 21, 2013 at 4:21 pm by Michael Schubert.)
Evangelists and anti-science creationists always say God created everything, and evolution is a false doctrine. One forum member here on AF claimed "Humans don't create, they produce", and Ray Comfort once said "we can only modify what God has already given us."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGxBUyHbn...E&index=24

Well, by "God's creation", what precisely do they mean? For example, a painting is a creation in a certain sense. An intelligent mind dipped a brush in a pool of paint and painted the pictures using the brush and pretty colors.

But I think creationists mean something different. A painter created a painting using tools (brush, paints, board, etc.). If "humans can't create, they produce", then only God can create without tools. So apparently God created life and the world with magic. What exactly did God do? Did he or she wave a magic wand and POOF it all appeared? Did God shoot electricity out of his fingers like a Sith lord from Star Wars?

Regardless of how God used his or her magic to create life and the world, everyone knows that magic does not exist. So.....

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RE: God's Tools
September 21, 2013 at 4:55 pm
There are certain members who I condider god's tools.*


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RE: God's Tools
September 21, 2013 at 5:15 pm (This post was last modified: September 21, 2013 at 5:15 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
It isn't at all surprising that Jesus was a carpenter: If your only tool is a hammer, then every problem looks like a nail.

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‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: God's Tools
September 21, 2013 at 8:09 pm
(September 21, 2013 at 4:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote: There are certain members who I condider god's tools.*

Feeling generous, Min? I'm certain your net can be casted much wider.
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RE: God's Tools
September 21, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Wider? No.

Lazer-like focus.
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RE: God's Tools
September 22, 2013 at 8:00 pm
(September 21, 2013 at 4:20 pm)Michael Schubert Wrote: Regardless of how God used his or her magic to create life and the world, everyone knows that magic does not exist. So.....

Undecided

Oh no, it's not magic. God spoke the 'word' and everything came into existence. It's all very logical, ya see?

But, ummm, don't stand before god if he ever talks to you. Sticks and stones may break your bones, but god's words can turn you into a goat/slash/fish/slash/paper weight. Worship (large)
There is an ALLLL-knowing, ALLLL-powerful, inVISible being who is everywhere, who created the WHOLE universe, who lives in another dimension called heaven, who is perfect in every way, who was never born and will never die, and who watches you every minute of every day (even when you're squeezing one out on the toilet). There are also unicorns, leprechauns, Santa Claus, an Easter Bunny, and a giant purple people eater.

JUST BELIEVE IT!
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RE: God's Tools
October 4, 2013 at 12:07 pm
Here is an example of one of god's tools.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: God's Tools
October 4, 2013 at 12:31 pm
The holier they are the harder they fall!
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RE: God's Tools
October 4, 2013 at 1:56 pm (This post was last modified: October 4, 2013 at 1:57 pm by max-greece.)
Didn't God use his tool on a virgin 2000 years ago.

That didn't turn out too well as I remember. The kid turned out to be a right tear-away and eventually got killed young, as they often do.
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