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Russia Bans The Quran
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RE: Russia Bans The Quran
(September 29, 2013 at 10:18 am)MindForgedManacle Wrote:
(September 29, 2013 at 6:53 am)Brian37 Wrote: For fucks sake, even if there were only 300,000,000 Muslims instead of 4 billion or 1 billion, acts of force to rid the world of people you don't like is called FUCKING GENOCIDE!

...Which I DIDN'T suggest. I simply corrected you on the number of Muslims, I never suggested genocide or anything like it.

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I find it hypocritical of you to point the finger at people who want to use force to control us and use violence to get us to submit, and want to play childish tit for tat bullshit.

You're claiming I've said things I never said...
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Way to miss the point again. This is not about numbers, this is about HOW do we in the west go about handling the zealots in the east? No mater how you slice it seeking a religious free world, NO MATTER THE LABEL, is impractical on a planet of 7 billion.

The best the secular west can do is interject our Jefferson's wall leash the age of Enlightenment put forth. Other than that I really don't think banning or deporting anyone is the solution.

I'd say simply treat any asshole who uses violence, like a criminal, not a martyr or terrorist.
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RE: Russia Bans The Quran
Oh yes, banning people is the solution. I strongly oppose any kind of immigration that takes place today. Immigration is to bring a lot of underqualified, and poor people into the country. Those people are not on par with people who do business in a country for a while, buy property and then decide to stay: no, they bring nothing into the country, and they demand it from the natives.
It is the work of none other than those who advocate the subjugation of the majority to the whims of the minority who also advocate immigration based on their supposed moral high ground of humanism.
Only one word describes pro-immigration activists: traitors, to their own kin.

(September 28, 2013 at 11:23 am)apophenia Wrote:
(September 28, 2013 at 2:33 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: This somewhat aids my agenda to be honest, further alienating other dominantly muslim ex-soviet Turkic states, if it is indeed real.

You have an agenda, mehmet? Oh do tell, what is your agenda?



I kinda saw this a bit late. My agenda is of course, the unification of the Turkic world. It's not just my own agenda, its the agenda of all real Turkish nationalists out there, ranging from the Balkans to Eastern Turkestan at the borders of China.
It is our earnest wish that we unite under a single banner to carve ourselves a niche in this world, free from the oppression of the West, the Russians and the Chinese to develop and prosper with our own kin.
This is my agenda.
Russia now holds sway over the central asian republics, and it has a large number of other Turkic people, including those of the muslim faith, in addition to those who are christians, pagans or buddhists. We are also interested in freeing or otherwise working out a deal with the Russians to allow them to come and live with their own kin. Or perhaps in a far future, wage war to free our brethren from their grasp.
Obviously if Putin were to deliver speeches or enact laws such as this, even though I respect him that he does these with a Russian nationalist spirit, I work with a Turkish nationalist spirit, and our interests often do collide with eachother.
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RE: Russia Bans The Quran
I highly doubt you know even one middle Easterner personally, JiggerJ. It sounds like you've been watching too many YouTube patriotism racist conspiracist mumbo jumbo videos to be able to even think straight.

Let me show you what I see. I live at a community living complex near a college. Almost all of mybuilding is middle eastern, and I'd say about 1/3 of the entire complex. There are only happy healthy loud and physically active students everywhere. Mostly men. My neice and I have a little girl over for playdates whose mom is foreign but raises her daughter on her own and has aboyfriend who helps sometimes. She works and goes to school. Surprisingly, I have yet to be raped by all these middle eastern men and surprisingly they're more concerned about uniting for weekend volleyball games than they are about taking over the world. they enjoy hangingout with American girls who are even their long term room mates and dress in typical high-school college girl garb.

There are traditional Muslims who live here too, wives wearing head to toe clothing. They are not social nor are their husbands socially active (besides getting beat up by white guys for beating their wives or having the cops called on them).

My entire side of town has been FLOODED with middle easterners and guess what? Nothings blown up and the only murders I find are American gang violence or stupd teenagers.

Before you make the mistake ofthrowing every single person of a particular race into the same pot: just remember that we've already been flooded in places. And those places are perfectly functional and the middle easterners are happy to be here.
Before you call "people of Islam?!?!" out as racist murderers, just take a look at this picture and tell me you see evil.

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If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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#74
RE: Russia Bans The Quran
What did.....what did......what did I just read in this thread?
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