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I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
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I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
> a study that only 4% of people having near death experiences

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> another study on people who had heart attacks were in death like coma without a working heart and most of them didn't have near death experiences, almost all of them turned to the a rationalist-materialist

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> there is the option that near death experiences are just hormonally induced accidental lucid dreams

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> or just rare hallucinations induced by oxygen depravation

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> and in some case it's just people looking for attention

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> there is an experiment in which scientist induced near death experiences in living people using a magnetic beam

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#2
RE: I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
To play devil's advocate (?), even if NDE turned out to be bullshit it's still not a proof that there's no afterlife.
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RE: I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
Quote:To play devil's advocate (?), even if NDE turned out to be bullshit it's still not a proof that there's no afterlife.

Spot on. And if NDE turn out to be legitimate, it doesn't prove that there IS an afterlife.

Remember, these are near death experiences. In order for an experience to validate some sort of afterlife, it would have to be a post death experience. I'm not completely sure how one would test for such an experience.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
The fact that people of different religions experience different versions of afterlife in NDEs does strongly suggest that it's dependent on what afterlife you believe you will experience. Or maybe that all religions are real and you should pick the one with the most agreeable afterlife.
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RE: I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
(September 28, 2013 at 5:16 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: The fact that people of different religions experience different versions of afterlife in NDEs does strongly suggest that it's dependent on what afterlife you believe you will experience. Or maybe that all religions are real and you should pick the one with the most agreeable afterlife.


What you may experience during an NDE does not depend much on what you believe but depend according to your karma or reaction.
You may well believe that you may go on the moon but if you haven't done anything practical to go there then you wan't get anywhere.
So if you are a total idiot that does not deserve to experience any good thing then in your NDE experience you may well see rats around.
On the other hand if you deserve something more then you will experience God in the ratio that match your effort.Angel
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RE: I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
(October 5, 2013 at 8:36 am)enrico Wrote:
(September 28, 2013 at 5:16 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: The fact that people of different religions experience different versions of afterlife in NDEs does strongly suggest that it's dependent on what afterlife you believe you will experience. Or maybe that all religions are real and you should pick the one with the most agreeable afterlife.


What you may experience during an NDE does not depend much on what you believe but depend according to your karma or reaction.
You may well believe that you may go on the moon but if you haven't done anything practical to go there then you wan't get anywhere.
So if you are a total idiot that does not deserve to experience any good thing then in your NDE experience you may well see rats around.
On the other hand if you deserve something more then you will experience God in the ratio that match your effort.Angel

Cool story, bro.
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RE: I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
WTF necroposts always get me confused Confused Fall

Oh wait...
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#8
RE: I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
You would have to assume NDEs are evidence for an afterlife to begin with so the 4% would be all the evidence you would need that there is one.
Come all ye faithful joyful and triumphant.
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RE: I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
(October 5, 2013 at 8:36 am)enrico Wrote: So if you are a total idiot that does not deserve to experience any good thing then in your NDE experience you may well see rats around.
On the other hand if you deserve something more then you will experience God in the ratio that match your effort.Angel
You're a Catholic, aren't you?
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RE: I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
(October 7, 2013 at 12:28 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: You would have to assume NDEs are evidence for an afterlife to begin with so the 4% would be all the evidence you would need that there is one.

Well that's what your lot does. It's always Christians bringing out the NDE stories as absolute proof of an afterlife. I've never seen an atheist do that. But 4% is pretty piss-poor low IMO. If the afterlife were real I'd expect 100% of everyone whose heart stopped to be reporting an NDE.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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