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Not if the victim's White
#11
RE: Not if the victim's White
Hate crimes are such bullshit. People don't typically kill people they love or like, so hate is pretty much the motivation from the get go.
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#12
RE: Not if the victim's White
(October 8, 2013 at 3:40 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well I don't know about those, but I blame not the blacks, they certainly are not the perpetrators, simply tools, nothing more. Those who kiss the asses of minorities wherever they are(leftists&liberals) too are nothing but tools in the hands of a certain.....people.
The enemies of every nation on earth. You don't want to let the Austrian guy worry you A Theist. I see that you also have come to the conclusion that you are becoming less and less able to exercise your national rights as the founding majority of the country.

I really hope you're joking about this.
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#13
RE: Not if the victim's White
Race and religion have had people fighting for all of time. It's not going to change anytime soon and its the same on both sides. I'm caucasion but I'm 3rd generation German in America so no-one in my family 'owned' slaves so although I'm really sorry that the slave trade existed for so long and hurt so many, I have had no part in it so I owe no apology. But there seems to be a lot of understandable resentment toward whites from blacks and continual racism toward blacks from whites...but what about all the modern day slavery that still exists? Them poor kids in the sex trade and labor trade and the adults in the same trades have the same treatments yet the inferior treatment of women and children continues with out qualms. I know it's wishful thinking to want us as a society to quit living in the past but damn, why can't we just let it go and focus on the ones who are oppressed now? An estimated 27 million people are sold into/ are apart of the slave trade TODAY. Why are still focused on 50 years ago?
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#14
RE: Not if the victim's White
(October 8, 2013 at 9:28 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote:
(October 8, 2013 at 3:40 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well I don't know about those, but I blame not the blacks, they certainly are not the perpetrators, simply tools, nothing more. Those who kiss the asses of minorities wherever they are(leftists&liberals) too are nothing but tools in the hands of a certain.....people.
The enemies of every nation on earth. You don't want to let the Austrian guy worry you A Theist. I see that you also have come to the conclusion that you are becoming less and less able to exercise your national rights as the founding majority of the country.

I really hope you're joking about this.
No I'm not. Leftists and liberals do this wherever I look. Never in sync with the majority, they look for supporters amongst the minorities. So they have their double standards, as do I. However I actually acknowledge that I am all for double standards, while those people claim to oppose double standards, while treating social issues related to race and ethnicity, they always stand up for the minority, while blaming the majority for everything.
Quote:Race and religion have had people fighting for all of time. It's not going to change anytime soon and its the same on both sides. I'm caucasion but I'm 3rd generation German in America so no-one in my family 'owned' slaves so although I'm really sorry that the slave trade existed for so long and hurt so many, I have had no part in it so I owe no apology. But there seems to be a lot of understandable resentment toward whites from blacks and continual racism toward blacks from whites...but what about all the modern day slavery that still exists? Them poor kids in the sex trade and labor trade and the adults in the same trades have the same treatments yet the inferior treatment of women and children continues with out qualms. I know it's wishful thinking to want us as a society to quit living in the past but damn, why can't we just let it go and focus on the ones who are oppressed now? Am estimated 27 million people are sold into/ are apart of the slave trade TODAY. Why are still focused on 50 years ago?
The thing is, I don't think that anyone owes anyone an apology for anything. Because no one wants an apology, apologies are empty things.
Besides, I personally don't think that whites actually do think about issues like slavery that occured some time ago, or that they might have used slaves in the past-but those who were enslaved do so, because slavery is actually the only thing they have. Their whole identity is built on slavery, and while actually detesting slavery, their entire being and their entire existence in the US is built on slavery, so while perhaps speaking a lot about it, even though they themselves have never experienced it, they do, at some point acknowledge that they owe their US citizenship, which automatically makes their lives more worth in world currency than the life of an average African person, to slavery.
Really an interesting dilemma.

Or perhaps Thomas was referring to whether whites were able to exercise their national rights as the founding majority. Well, given the fact that they are constantly reviled when trying to represent themselves as "racists", other minorities are not, even though we know that Obama got the majority of the black vote because he was black(or half black), no one accuses him of coming to power with racial sentiments in play.
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RE: Not if the victim's White
(October 8, 2013 at 8:43 am)A Theist Wrote: Nope. You're a liar. I never said any such thing. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy and the double standards of far-left radicals and Black activist agitators in racial issues. Whenever there's a White on Black incident some of you guys here have it posted all over the forum screaming about how racist Whites are and apologizing that you have White skin. You guys love to set yourselves up as the "Great White Protectors" of Black people. You also have the idea that Blacks are somehow justified when they commit acts of violence against Whites. After all, the evil White oppressors deserve it because of the days of slavery which ended during the Civil War. Oh, but Black people can't be racist can they?


No. You are lying. As made evident through this thread of yours:

http://atheistforums.org/thread-19988.html






Quote:what else would you expect from a naive pimple-faced

I dont have pimples. But since we are at that level, it might be time for the redneck scumbag to finaly have his teeth fixed and to check in for a brainscan to see if the generations of incest, which is common amongst your pathetic kind of people has left any damage.

Quote:who has a Google education?

I go to nightschool, speak two languages and have an active interest in various educational topics especialy biology. But nice to see how some runarround ragged hillbilly who earns his money by picking cotton and probably smacked arround a woman or two can open his rancid mouth and spread some of that disgusting smell by claiming to be "smarter" than everyone else.

Quote: Hitler Youth

In my time on this forum I have always shown awareness of my nations history aswell as of the responsibility that comes with it. Here aswell as in my private life I have always been a strong opponent of antisemitism, racial prejudice aswell as of anykind of totalitarian system.

In your time here:

1: You have shown utter disgusting contempt for women on a level that can only be described as medieval or almoust muslim.

2: You have accused a black/leftwing conspiracy of destroying white culture.

3: You have proudly bragged about the practice of beating children.

4: You have continued to refuse to reply to any arguments but resort to repeating talking points


You are not being confronted with the image of the stereotypical redneck, because you are the stereotypical redneck!

If anything, you are being treated as what you are. And if it were to me, especialy for the part in which you so disgustingly brag about beating children, as someone who was abused as a child, you should be in jail!
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#16
RE: Not if the victim's White
Quote:2: You have accused a black/leftwing conspiracy of destroying white culture.
Personally I think there is a point to that, though. Not explicitely to whites, or any other ethnic group in any country that forms the majority of that country, though leftists do usually look up to minorities as their prime supporters in every endeavor, and are usually anti-culture and anti-tradition, so it would not surprise me if the leftists in the US acted in the same way. Don't know about the blacks though, they do what any other minority is prone to do.
I personally don't think they're capable or well-organized enough for such a conspiracy. Leftists on the other hand, are.
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#17
RE: Not if the victim's White
(October 8, 2013 at 10:19 am)The Germans are coming Wrote:
(October 8, 2013 at 8:43 am)A Theist Wrote: Nope. You're a liar. I never said any such thing. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy and the double standards of far-left radicals and Black activist agitators in racial issues. Whenever there's a White on Black incident some of you guys here have it posted all over the forum screaming about how racist Whites are and apologizing that you have White skin. You guys love to set yourselves up as the "Great White Protectors" of Black people. You also have the idea that Blacks are somehow justified when they commit acts of violence against Whites. After all, the evil White oppressors deserve it because of the days of slavery which ended during the Civil War. Oh, but Black people can't be racist can they?


No. You are lying. As made evident through this thread of yours:

http://atheistforums.org/thread-19988.html



Quote:who has a Google education?

I go to nightschool, speak two languages and have an active interest in various educational topics especialy biology. But nice to see how some runarround ragged hillbilly who earns his money by picking cotton and probably smacked arround a woman or two can open his rancid mouth and spread some of that disgusting smell by claiming to be "smarter" than everyone else.

Quote:No. You are lying. As made evident through this thread of yours:

http://atheistforums.org/thread-19988.html
Nope. You're still a naive pimple-faced teeny bopping liar with a Google education. Nowhere in that thread did I mention anything about a conspiracy.

Quote: I go to nightschool, speak two languages and have an active interest in various educational topics especialy (should be spelled, especially) biology. But nice to see how some runarround (should be spelled, runaround) ragged hillbilly who earns his money by picking cotton and probably smacked arround (should be spelled, around) a woman

Maybe if you'd pay more attention in night school and spend less time on Google searches you'd learn how to spell in at least one of the two languages you supposedly speak....Here. You need the practice...

http://kidshealth.org/kid/closet/games/s...g_bee.html

Quote:claiming to be "smarter" than everyone else.

No, not everyone. But at least smarter than you.
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Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
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#18
RE: Not if the victim's White
The fundamental disconnect in reverse racism (at least for me) is this: there is no word you can use about my race (white) that can hurt me or piss me off. Calling me cracker or honky wouldn't upset me. There is no equivalent of the "n" word for me- no word steeped in centuries of blood and oppression. I understand the offense that word causes because of its terrible history. I can't be offended that way- not least because I don't think about my race, don't consider it an important identifier, and don't care- all of which are also feelings it is difficult for minorities to feel. The playing ground of racist words is inherently uneven.

That said, hate crimes are hate crimes, regardless of whether or not the victim's feelings are hurt. There is plenty of racial anger in the black community- I don't think anyone disputes that. If this was a hate crime- and it may have been- it should be treated as such, although the insinuation that whites are victimized by the justice system is just bizarre.
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#19
RE: Not if the victim's White
(October 8, 2013 at 11:31 am)A Theist Wrote: Nope. You're still a naive pimple-faced teeny bopping liar with a Google education. Nowhere in that thread did I mention anything about a conspiracy.

As expected the inbreed, wifebeating, childabusing worthless hillbilly does not understand the concept that someone who believes in a conspiracy will not call it conspiracy.

Quote:Maybe if you'd pay more attention in night school and spend less time on Google searches you'd learn how to spell in at least one of the two languages you supposedly speak....Here. You need the practice...

As expected you resort to the same nonsence as before, instead of listing your own crudentials?

What makes you so fucking smart?! What kind of knowlege does being a worthless redneck who abuses his kids give that makes you so supirior!?

None!



Quote:No, not everyone. But at least smarter than you.

Amazing! Not a single fucking argument!

Instead you behave like an 8 year old schoolboy.

I guess one simply doesnt develope any further when one originates from a culture that celebrates incest and childabuse.
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#20
RE: Not if the victim's White
(October 8, 2013 at 11:57 am)Zazzy Wrote: The fundamental disconnect in reverse racism (at least for me) is this: there is no word you can use about my race (white) that can hurt me or piss me off. Calling me cracker or honky wouldn't upset me. There is no equivalent of the "n" word for me- no word steeped in centuries of blood and oppression. I understand the offense that word causes because of its terrible history. I can't be offended that way- not least because I don't think about my race, don't consider it an important identifier, and don't care- all of which are also feelings it is difficult for minorities to feel. The playing ground of racist words is inherently uneven.

That said, hate crimes are hate crimes, regardless of whether or not the victim's feelings are hurt. There is plenty of racial anger in the black community- I don't think anyone disputes that. If this was a hate crime- and it may have been- it should be treated as such, although the insinuation that whites are victimized by the justice system is just bizarre.
I believe this incident goes beyond beyond simple name-calling and just someone getting their feelings hurt. We're talking about a guy who was possibly murdered because his skin was White. If the victim had been Black and the police changed their conclusions about the racial motivation you better believe that the race hustlers, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, would be organizing protests and street rallies as we speak. Not to mention the far-left race fanatics on this forum posting what racists White people are. There's a double standard among these guys when it comes to racial issues. Racism is racism no matter who it comes from and no matter how much someone tries to justify it.

(October 8, 2013 at 12:10 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: As expected you resort to the same nonsence as before, instead of listing your own crudentials?

What makes you so fucking smart?! What kind of knowlege does being a worthless redneck who abuses his kids give that makes you so supirior!?

None!
Quote:What makes you so fucking smart?!

I didn't say that I was smarter than everybody else. I said I was at least smarter than you...

Quote: nonsence

Should be spelled, nonsense.

Quote:crudentials

Should be spelled, credentials.

Quote:knowlege

Should be spelled, knowledge.

Quote: supirior

Should be spelled, superior.

Possibly some inbreeding in your case?
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Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
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