Illinois to become 15th state to recognize marriage equality

[Ryantology]

Well, if you want more Bible in your American politics, today wasn't really your day. Gay marriage in Illinois, arch-Christards Cuccinelli and Jackson both lost in Virginia, and a Teabagger even lost in Alabama.

[Lion IRC]

Something putrid is going on when the folk preaching about the importance of monogamous marriage and family are the same people who say there is nothing wrong with sexual promiscuity outside marriage.

20 years ago they were screaming how old-fashioned and out-dated the traditional concept of the nuclear family was. Free love, no fault divorce, abortion on-demand, defacto marriages, children out of wedlock...

Now the hypocrisy kicks in with all this fake confected nostalgia for the InstitutionTM of marriage and the "right" to start a normal family...just like everybody else.

WOT a joke!

Lion, believe me, I know how it feels to see your beliefs go obsolete right in front of your eyes. It's why I finally ditched your apocalyptic death cult.

My beliefs aren't affected by any of this.
There's nothing new under the sun going on in America.
Civilisations come and they go.
Why? Because they go putrid and rot from the inside.
Confucius said the nuclear family is a microcosm of The State.
Guess what the selfish, hedonistic cult of godless individualism is doing to America?

Legalize marijuana. Legalize gay marriage/adoption.

Knock yourself out Team USA

[Ryantology]

My beliefs aren't affected by any of this.
There's nothing new under the sun going on in America.
Civilisations come and they go.
Why? Because they go putrid and rot from the inside.
Confucius said the nuclear family is a microcosm of The State.
Guess what the selfish, hedonistic cult of godless individualism is doing to America?

Legalize marijuana. Legalize gay marriage/adoption.

Knock yourself out Team USA

I know you miss the days of slavery, genocide, institutional racism, workers having no rights and only white Protestant males having personal freedoms and civil rights. Too bad. You lost. Get over it.

[Lion IRC]

My beliefs aren't affected by any of this.
There's nothing new under the sun going on in America.
Civilisations come and they go.
Why? Because they go putrid and rot from the inside.
Confucius said the nuclear family is a microcosm of The State.
Guess what the selfish, hedonistic cult of godless individualism is doing to America?

Legalize marijuana. Legalize gay marriage/adoption.

Knock yourself out Team USA

I know you miss the days of slavery, genocide, institutional racism, workers having no rights and only white Protestant males having personal freedoms and civil rights. Too bad. You lost. Get over it.

It's sad that you think same-sex "marriage" is some sort of victory that will deliver you from all that bad stuff.

Slavery won't go away simply by chanting tolerance über alles.

Personal "freedoms" haven't done anything to reduce the number of slaves chained to their heroin addiction.

Freedom and the personal pursuit of hedonist liberty is what drives the excesses of capitalist greed. Have you seen what the modern day slave owner looks like? He wears clothes made in the slums of Bangladesh and India and China. He thinks that he is doing his slaves a favor by letting them work to make the disposable crap he uses for a few months then buries in landfill. I-pad. I-phone. I-pod.
The "I" is a deliberate personal pronoun.

'Tolerance' hasn't made any impact on the number of sex slaves and prostitutes.

How has gay "marriage" reduced the scourge of child pornography on that bastion of freedom - the Internet?

[T.J.]

Canada's still around, so is all the other countries that legalized Gay Marriage and those were nation-wide.

Good for Illinois. I hope for my state to follow suit, but I don't expect that to happen any time soon.

[Ryantology]

It's sad that you think same-sex "marriage" is some sort of victory that will deliver you from all that bad stuff.

It takes someone as uniquely retarded as you to take that away from what I said. Well done.

Slavery won't go away simply by chanting tolerance über alles.

Nope. It didn't go away until we shot enough racist rednecks.

Personal "freedoms" haven't done anything to reduce the number of slaves chained to their heroin addiction.

And taking out the trash doesn't do anything to solve world hunger.

Freedom and the personal pursuit of hedonist liberty is what drives the excesses of capitalist greed. Have you seen what the modern day slave owner looks like? He wears clothes made in the slums of Bangladesh and India and China. He thinks that he is doing his slaves a favor by letting them work to make the disposable crap he uses for a few months then buries in landfill. I-pad. I-phone. I-pod.
The "I" is a deliberate personal pronoun.

Yeah, amazing how the party of American Christianity and the party which not only enables third-world slavery but wants to bring it back home with them, are the same party.

'Tolerance' hasn't made any impact on the number of sex slaves and prostitutes.

And walking to work instead of driving a car does absolutely nothing to address drug use.

How has gay "marriage" reduced the scourge of child pornography on that bastion of freedom - the Internet?

How does brushing your teeth help the homeless?

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? I'm not even joking. This is the most amazingly stupid and nonsensical collection of counter-arguments (for lack of a more appropriate term) I've ever had thrown back at me, and that's saying a lot considering how long I've been here.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Something putrid is going on when the folk preaching about the importance of monogamous marriage and family are the same people who say there is nothing wrong with sexual promiscuity outside marriage.

20 years ago they were screaming how old-fashioned and out-dated the traditional concept of the nuclear family was. Free love, no fault divorce, abortion on-demand, defacto marriages, children out of wedlock...

Now the hypocrisy kicks in with all this fake confected nostalgia for the InstitutionTM of marriage and the "right" to start a normal family...just like everybody else.

WOT a joke!

Sexual promiscuity outside of marriage has nothing at all to do with same sex marriage. Nothing.

Free love, etc has nothing at all to do with same sex marriage. Nothing.

Do you have any legitimate reason(s) why a same sex couple should NOT start a family?

Boru

[Doubting Thomas]

Lion, if you're really concerned about "saving marriage," then why don't you preach against divorce to your fellow Christians? It's a fact that fundamentalist Christians get divorced at higher rates than atheists do. Also, if you're concerned with saving marriage, why fight against allowing more people to get married and instead focus on why so many heterosexual couples prefer to live together as a family without going through the formality of having a wedding? This is what I see as the real threat to traditional marriage.

It's sad that you think same-sex "marriage" is some sort of victory that will deliver you from all that bad stuff.

No, I see it as a victory against oppression and bigotry, aka "tyranny of the majority."

Personal "freedoms" haven't done anything to reduce the number of slaves chained to their heroin addiction.

Oh, arguing "freedom is slavery" are we?

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Sexual promiscuity outside of marriage has nothing at all to do with same sex marriage. Nothing.

Actually, allowing same sex marriage will cut down on premarital sex, since all those previously "hedonistic" people having sex outside of marriage would then be married. But I guess conservative Christians didn't think about that.

[Minimalist]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govb...s-tuesday/

Now, Hawaii.

Hawaii was poised to become the 15th state to legalize same-sex marriage Tuesday evening after state senators sent legislation to Gov. Neil Abercrombie’s (D) desk.

[Cinjin]

Something putrid is going on when the folk preaching about the importance of monogamous marriage and family are the same people who say there is nothing wrong with sexual promiscuity outside marriage.

There IS nothing wrong with sexual promiscuity outside of marriage. Thanks to the most natural drive on earth, the sex drive, you exist. Besides, you and your kind are the most guilty. You can refer to most of your preachers and church elders. Every other week, you've got another man-of-god sticking his dick where it doesn't belong.
The history of your religion is sexual deviance and secret abortions yet here you are on your pious soap box preaching your self-righteous bull shit.

20 years ago they were screaming how old-fashioned and out-dated the traditional concept of the nuclear family was. Free love, no fault divorce, abortion on-demand, defacto marriages, children out of wedlock...

Now the hypocrisy kicks in with all this fake confected nostalgia for the InstitutionTM of marriage and the "right" to start a normal family...just like everybody else.

WOT a joke!

Umm, Yeah, doesn't it just suck when two people with different views want to have the same civil rights as you. I know I hate that when people demand equality ... it's so frustrating isn't it.