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Question for Deists and Agnostics
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 (November 19, 2013 at 11:44 am)themonkeyman Wrote: I nor any scientist can answer this and generally for these questions we plug a 'God did it card!'. And you don't see the logical fallacy in claiming "Goddidit?" Even if you could prove that the universe was intelligently designed, it doesn't mean that Yahweh was the designer and is going to throw you in hell.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
The problem is that your question presupposes (with no justification) that the God of scripture is to be given preference when considering possible evidence for the existence of a deity. This is silly. In fact, if all the philosophical and scientiific arguments for God's existence were valid, sound and incontestable, they would be far more suitable for inferring the existence of a Deistic god, as there is no possible argument to makke the philosophical arguments support any single god in particular and it alone.
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Copenhagen School  Religious Views: Its all bullshit to keep you handing money to the usher.
I'm tired of people saying something can't come from nothing. Quantum particles jump in and out of existence from nothing all day long.
as for the goddidit claim, you may find is video interesting
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day, To the last syllable of recorded time; And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. 
Have you watched the Lawrence Krauss lecture; "A Universe From Nothing" or read the book of the same title?
Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?-Esquilax Evolution - Adapt or be eaten.  RE: Question for Deists and Agnostics
November 19, 2013 at 5:02 pm
(This post was last modified: November 19, 2013 at 5:04 pm by Jacob(smooth).)
1. The difference between science and religion is that science allows for "we don't know" and does not claim to yet have all the answers. You shouldn't turn to religion just because you think you've found a hole in science. You can't find God in the gaps between knowledge. You don't know the reason for bunions either. But that doesn't lead you to the conclusion God makes them happen.
2. There was no "before" the big bang. Time is part of the universe and inexorably tied up with space. "Before" the big bang there was no space for time to exist in. Asking what was before the big bang is like asking what's the bit before the beginning of a circle. The circle, like time, is complete. 3. Good luck with herself.
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