How many nuclear weapons were used on Iraqis?

[I and I]

If the claim is... Using nukes were necessary to win the war" then evidence would be needed to back that claim up. Evidence from top military leaders at the time would be nice because it would show that using them was a tactical necessity to win the war. A president that has no knowledge of military tactics stating that it was necessary doesn't count as evidence that it was necessary.

Where are these high ranking military leaders at that time that believed using nukes was necessary? Either you have evidence or you don't.

Again, what would you consider evidence to satisfy you that the US used nukes on Iraq?

Do you even know what types of traces or evidence to look for that show signs of small scale tactical nukes?

[Optimistic Mysanthrope]

Now I know how showing evidence goes in a forum, if you don't want to believe it then there is no amount of evidence that will suffice. So first you must tell me WHAT WOULD ENOUGH EVIDENCE BE to show that small scale tactical nukes were used in Iraq?

Shut up, read this and stop posting crap

[TaraJo]

If the claim is... Using nukes were necessary to win the war" then evidence would be needed to back that claim up. Evidence from top military leaders at the time would be nice because it would show that using them was a tactical necessity to win the war. A president that has no knowledge of military tactics stating that it was necessary doesn't count as evidence that it was necessary.

No, I don't know for certain that using nukes was necessary to win the war. In fact, I'd be willing to bet we didn't. I also know that nuclear weapons were new enough at the time that nobody really knew how destructive they would be, especiall the after effects (radiation, fall-out, ect).

I'm also aware that nobody knew how much damage it would cause to end the war without using nukes or how many people would die. The bombings killed about 250,000 people. Do you know if it would have caused more deaths to not use nukes and invade Japan? If it had caused 300,000 deaths to invade, would we now turn around and say "we should have used the nukes?" How about 400,000? How many more lives are worth not using nuclear weapons?

Where are these high ranking military leaders at that time that believed using nukes was necessary? Either you have evidence or you don't.

Pretty much every history book I've ever read on the subject says that it was a difficult decision, filled with what were, at that time, unknowns. The exact names of military leaders aren't that important.

Again, what would you consider evidence to satisfy you that the US used nukes on Iraq?

How about a reputable source that says we did or evidence that we've used them?

[Raven]

Do you think that's too subtle for Mao Tse Troll?

[Jackalope]

Either you have evidence or you don't.

Right back atcha, sunshine.

Again, what would you consider evidence to satisfy you that the US used nukes on Iraq?

100% of the time I've seen posters take this kind of line they in fact had nothing.

So I'll answer you in the same way I answered them: I'll look at whatever it is you have - so produce it, or shut the fuck up.

[Chas]

For some reason japan is being talked about.... In that case is their any evidence that nuking Japan was a military tactic that was militarily necessary? If you believe it was, then quote 3 or more military leaders (high ranking) that at the time held that position. Hint: you won't find them.

Anywho, the thread was about the use of small scale tactical nuclear weapons on Iraq during the most recent invasion of Iraq. These small scale tactical nukes were used and there is lots of evidence that they were.... Including aside from on the ground evidence a US official saying recently "we should nuke Iran like we did Iraq".

Now I know how showing evidence goes in a forum, if you don't want to believe it then there is no amount of evidence that will suffice. So first you must tell me WHAT WOULD ENOUGH EVIDENCE BE to show that small scale tactical nukes were used in Iraq?

Show the evidence, you lying snake, or shut the fuck up.