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Why do so many People Hate Zionism?
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RE: Why do so many People Hate Zionism?
(December 7, 2013 at 8:36 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: First, someone forcibly evicting you from your land does not give them the right to it.

If that's the case, then there is no country in the world that rightfully possesses any land.

Quote:Second; how dare you deny a people who have suffered genocide the right to have a homeland where they can be safe!
Do we do this for all victims of genocide? The Jews are hardly the only ones.

Quote:Third, the Arabs are totally primitive racist savages & land thieves, you cannot steal from a thief.

The Hebrews stole their land from several neighboring tribes. Don't those tribes deserve the rights to that land? Where you do draw the line?
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#12
RE: Why do so many People Hate Zionism?
Quote:First, someone forcibly evicting you from your land does not give them the right to it

Bollocks. If some Apache showed up on my doorstep and claimed his people "owned" the land my house sits on less than 2 centuries ago I would call the sheriff who would doubtlessly shoot the bastard on sight.

Right of conquest was recognized for many centuries.
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#13
RE: Why do so many People Hate Zionism?
(December 7, 2013 at 10:02 pm)Ryantology Wrote:
(December 7, 2013 at 8:36 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: First, someone forcibly evicting you from your land does not give them the right to it.

If that's the case, then there is no country in the world that rightfully possesses any land.

Quote:Second; how dare you deny a people who have suffered genocide the right to have a homeland where they can be safe!
Do we do this for all victims of genocide? The Jews are hardly the only ones.

Quote:Third, the Arabs are totally primitive racist savages & land thieves, you cannot steal from a thief.

The Hebrews stole their land from several neighboring tribes. Don't those tribes deserve the rights to that land? Where you do draw the line?
First off, most other people who have been genocided do have a country.
Second, most countries have not stolen land from other people, except in the Americas, but that is different because the aboriginals still live here.
Third, I draw the line at how the Jews are a Nobel prize winning innovative people, while the Arabs are racist savages.

(December 7, 2013 at 10:06 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:First, someone forcibly evicting you from your land does not give them the right to it

Bollocks. If some Apache showed up on my doorstep and claimed his people "owned" the land my house sits on less than 2 centuries ago I would call the sheriff who would doubtlessly shoot the bastard on sight.

Right of conquest was recognized for many centuries.

That is different because the Indians were never expelled. Mistreated, but never expelled. Do the Jews not deserve to be safe in their own homeland, or do you just want them disjointed so you can genocide them again?
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RE: Why do so many People Hate Zionism?
(December 7, 2013 at 8:36 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: First, someone forcibly evicting you from your land does not give them the right to it.
Agreed
Quote:Second; how dare you deny a people who have suffered genocide the right to have a homeland where they can be safe!
Because as you just stated, forcibly evicting from people from land does not give you a right to it.

Quote:Third, the Arabs are totally primitive racist savages & land thieves, you cannot steal from a thief.
Really? Where the fuck did the Jewish people originate from? They're both Semitic races. If it's ok to steal from Arabs, then it's ok to steal from Jews.
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RE: Why do so many People Hate Zionism?
(December 7, 2013 at 10:28 pm)Optimistic Mysanthrope Wrote:
(December 7, 2013 at 8:36 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: First, someone forcibly evicting you from your land does not give them the right to it.
Agreed
Quote:Second; how dare you deny a people who have suffered genocide the right to have a homeland where they can be safe!
Because as you just stated, forcibly evicting from people from land does not give you a right to it.

Quote:Third, the Arabs are totally primitive racist savages & land thieves, you cannot steal from a thief.
Really? Where the fuck did the Jewish people originate from? They're both Semitic races. If it's ok to steal from Arabs, then it's ok to steal from Jews.
I'm not a racist. It doesn't matter where they came from, it merely matters where their culture is now; & the Jews are some of the most sophisticated people in the world while the Arabs are primitive savages.
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RE: Why do so many People Hate Zionism?
Quote:That is different because the Indians were never expelled.

Bollocks. I invite you to visit an Indian reservation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears

Quote:The Trail of Tears is a name given to the ethnic cleansing and forced relocation of Native American nations from southeastern parts of the United States following the Indian Removal Act of 1830. The removal included many members of the Cherokee, Muscogee (Creek), Seminole, Chickasaw, and Choctaw nations, among others in the United States, from their homelands to Indian Territory in eastern sections of the present-day state of Oklahoma. The phrase originated from a description of the removal of the Choctaw Nation in 1831.[1]
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RE: Why do so many People Hate Zionism?
(December 7, 2013 at 10:39 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:That is different because the Indians were never expelled.

Bollocks. I invite you to visit an Indian reservation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears

Quote:The Trail of Tears is a name given to the ethnic cleansing and forced relocation of Native American nations from southeastern parts of the United States following the Indian Removal Act of 1830. The removal included many members of the Cherokee, Muscogee (Creek), Seminole, Chickasaw, and Choctaw nations, among others in the United States, from their homelands to Indian Territory in eastern sections of the present-day state of Oklahoma. The phrase originated from a description of the removal of the Choctaw Nation in 1831.[1]

They were still in America, so that is still different.
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#18
RE: Why do so many People Hate Zionism?
Do you have any fucking idea what you are talking about?
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#19
RE: Why do so many People Hate Zionism?
What, so as long as they're still on the same land mass it doesn't matter?
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#20
RE: Why do so many People Hate Zionism?
(December 7, 2013 at 11:01 pm)Optimistic Mysanthrope Wrote: What, so as long as they're still on the same land mass it doesn't matter?
Of course it is still reprehensible, but they were still in the same country so that doesn't entitle them to their own country.
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