Kiev Protestors Topple Lenin Statue

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I also utterly support the Ukrainian people in their struggle against Russia.

By the way kılıç mehmet I have three heroes of History. One is British, One is American and the other Turkish.

Can you guess who the Turkish one is?

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I also utterly support the Ukrainian people in their struggle against Russia.

By the way kılıç mehmet I have three heroes of History. One is British, One is American and the other Turkish.

Can you guess who the Turkish one is?

Attila the Hun?

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I also utterly support the Ukrainian people in their struggle against Russia.

By the way kılıç mehmet I have three heroes of History. One is British, One is American and the other Turkish.

Can you guess who the Turkish one is?

Attila the Hun?

I suppose he was a Turk of sorts...no I am a big fan of Kemal Attaturk.

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Attila the Hun?

I suppose he was a Turk of sorts...no I am a big fan of Kemal Attaturk.

Yes, we call him by his unofficial honorific title of "Bashbugh", he is the founder of the country. He said the final word on who these lands belong, ousted the foreign powers, and established our presence in these lands for good, with a good government that was sadly not upheld by his successors.

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I suppose he was a Turk of sorts...no I am a big fan of Kemal Attaturk.

Yes, we call him by his unofficial honorific title of "Bashbugh", he is the founder of the country. He said the final word on who these lands belong, ousted the foreign powers, and established our presence in these lands for good, with a good government that was sadly not upheld by his successors.

Agree with that. He completely modernised Turkey, brought in the Roman Alphabet, kicked the mullahs back into their caves and brought a new Era of education.

Yes and he got the allies out of Turkeyh but he was a most honourable warrior.

This is what he wrote on the memorial to the Allied war dead at Gallipoli.

"Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives…
You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours…
You, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace, after having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Ataturk, 1934

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Well, his intention was to create a modern nation state from the outdated imperial, multi-ethnic state. What he realized was not that the Ottoman empire wasn't modern, on the contrary, it was becoming modernized with Meiji-esque reforms taking place, but it was still holding on to outdated imperial dogma, and the royal ruling family were more concerned with their own well-being than the well-being of the empire and its citizens.
So he abolished the dynasty with every connections that they bore, and brought in what he thought would be the best for rapid modernisation and industrialisation of the country.
And of course, being against imperialism he also spoke against imperialism even when speaking of his enemies, who have used their colonial soldiers for a war that they were normally not supposed to be involved in.

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I also utterly support the Ukrainian people in their struggle against Russia.

By the way kılıç mehmet I have three heroes of History. One is British, One is American and the other Turkish.

Can you guess who the Turkish one is?

Attila the Hun?

I am actually a big fan of Attila. He was an early anti-imperialist hero. He was also atheist & anti-racist.

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Attila the Hun?

I am actually a big fan of Attila. He was an early anti-imperialist hero. He was also atheist & anti-racist.

Yes, he rapes women of all races and burn temples to all gods in the process of sacking all centers of civilization he could get his hands on. He is a early proponent of applied Marxism indeed.

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I am actually a big fan of Attila. He was an early anti-imperialist hero. He was also atheist & anti-racist.

Yes, he rapes women of all races and burn temples to all gods in the process of sacking all centers of civilization he could get his hands on. He is a early proponent of applied Marxism indeed.

He liberated the people from the control of the Roman Empire. Can't say that wasn't good.

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Yes, he rapes women of all races and burn temples to all gods in the process of sacking all centers of civilization he could get his hands on. He is a early proponent of applied Marxism indeed.

He liberated the people from the control of the Roman Empire. Can't say that wasn't good.

If you can't, then that would likely be because you are simultanously insane, ignorant and retarded. Liberation from Roman empire by the likes of Attila was about as good for the subjects of the empire as liberation by Pol pot was good for the people of Cambodia.