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Is multiculturalism a bad thing for Europe?
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RE: Is multiculturalism a bad thing for Europe?
(December 16, 2013 at 11:51 am)MarxRaptor Wrote: Multiculturalism is a Islamic trojan horse. By respecting others' cultures we are giving them free rein to commit misogyny, racism, apartheid, homophobia, etc.

Actually multicultural norms were first introduced in Canada in The 70's as a way of creation greater recognition for French and native minorities in legal and social structures. They then spread throughout the west as immigration grew and politicians decided for an easy 'out' when it comes to social inclusion/assimilation.

People also need to remember there are two different types of multiculturalism; fact and norms.

Multiculturalism as a fact has existed since humans first sought to interact with other humans outside of their borders (however defined). Multicultural norms (the legal/legislative form) are very much a modern enterprise, and one I vehemently disagree with as an egalitarian.
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RE: Is multiculturalism a bad thing for Europe?
Quote:Well, your bloodline isn't really my concern.

You seem to suggest otherwise

Quote:The myth is often the reality here.

So you beleive in nonsene

Quote:Its rather interesting that all mongrels think that everyone around them is just like them.

Do they?


Quote:And I already told you what pureblood means to me.

So its just meaningless then

Quote: I might have a non-turkish ancestor in my family line

I think that the majority of your genetics are not altaic .

Quote: Of that, no one can be sure. Or even multiple ones. However I'm also aware that I do not descent from anyone but the tribes of my ancestors

Everyone is descended from the tribes of their ancestors


Quote: And that I do not have foreign blood up to at least 5 generations. That is enough for me. I do not doubt my lineage, and I have no reason to think otherwise.

So it isn't genetic then -purely cultural. not 'blood' at all

Quote:My consciousness too, remains the same of the tribes I descend from.

Anyne have any idea what this means?

Quote:Then go and marry a black person or a pakistani, if good education requires you to do so. You certainly don't want to look like a peasant don't you?

Ill marry who I chose. I don;t give a fig about 'blood'

Quote:Well, good for you Smile Your history as a nation still doesn't go back beyond the Norman invasion.

Wrong...again. England as a nation dates back to the unification of teh subkingdoms under Edgar.circa 900 AD

The Byzantines didn't lose Constantinople until the end of the 15th century

Quote:Before you even knew yourselves, we were pwning the shit out of Europe.

Er no. You arrived some 400 years later and managed to take the Balkans. the Poles knocked the shit out of you at Vienna and put an end to your machinations


Quote:They buggered off. Is that so hard to comprehend?

It is rather since genetics suggest that most converted to islam and are your ancestors
Quote:The once native Christians now have their own countries, Greece and Armenia. The Kekos(kurds) have only recently left their villages in the mountains and moved into the cities.

Better off giving the Kurds their own country too lot less trouble all round.
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#53
RE: Is multiculturalism a bad thing for Europe?
Quote:You seem to suggest otherwise
Well, I really didn't ask you who your people were. I merely made a guess, though your username is rather misleading.
Quote:So you beleive in nonsene
Are you drunk or something? A few posts back you were using punctuation and proper spelling.
Quote:So its just meaningless then
To me, it means everything.
Quote:I think that the majority of your genetics are not altaic .
You do that a lot, as it seems, "think". But you don't seem to think too straight most of the time. I know my lineage, and it tells me what I need to hear. What you think is really irrelevant.
Quote:Everyone is descended from the tribes of their ancestors
Thanks for the confirmation of my statement.
Quote:So it isn't genetic then -purely cultural. not 'blood' at all
It is about blood, as we do not accept outsiders. No one can come up and say "I'm a Turk" and then suddenly become a Turk. You must come from a family of Turks, which implies that you have to have the blood of the Turks within your veins, for at least three generations.
Three generations are required in order to swipe clean the impure change in ethnic consciousness.
Quote:Anyne have any idea what this means?
It means, that I, and my ancestors have had the same ethnic consciousness for millenia.
We were not at one point Celts, Anglo-Saxons, Normans, or a mix of these. Our consciousness remained the same throughout the generations since we have entered the pages of history.
Quote:Ill marry who I chose. I don;t give a fig about 'blood'
But you really said that it was bydlo to marry amongst your own, did you not? You truly are conflicting in your words.
Quote:Wrong...again. England as a nation dates back to the unification of teh subkingdoms under Edgar.circa 900 AD

The Byzantines didn't lose Constantinople until the end of the 15th century
You think that our history begins with the conquest of Constantinople? You're misinformed. Your history begins with the Norman invasion. Until then, you were very much like the danes, until you met another wave of latinized northmen who gave you your present identity.
Not to mention that you cannot even understand the Anglo-Saxon tongue, while we have a strong and rich oral and written tradition, nearly all our dialects were recognized and categorized by Mahmud Al Kashgari in the 11th century along with our tribes, in Dīwānu l-Luġat al-Turk(Compendium of the languages of the Turks) whereas the English nation was still at infancy.
So do not think that you are our equals.
Quote:Er no. You arrived some 400 years later and managed to take the Balkans. the Poles knocked the shit out of you at Vienna and put an end to your machinations
Well, you obviously forgot about the waves of Kuns, Bolgars, Apars, Khazars, Kypchaks and others that have ventured to the west from the north of the Caspian sea. The Turks of Turkey have ventured from the east, facing the Muslim dynasties and the Roman territories in Anatolia, while the others have done their part by invading from the north.
Quote:It is rather since genetics suggest that most converted to islam and are your ancestors
Well, if they were, I'd say that we should have been converted to Christianity instead. How come?
Obviously we were more numerous, and we came in waves of migrations.
Having trouble standing their ground, most of them have moved to urban areas, and in the 20th century, most have been already sent off somewhere. The Greeks during the population exchange, and the Armenians during the exile.
There are still some remaining though in Istanbul, mostly. They are still Christian.
Not to mention that it wasn't just the Oghuz who came to Anatolia. Large numbers of Kypchaks/Kumans(my patrilineal tribe), Qaratatars, and many other tribes came and settled here, and many more during the Mongol Invasion.

The problem with you people is that you first call us like, "converted christians" and then tell us that we're barbarous foreign invaders and that we don't belong in Europe. Your two faced attitude is staggering.
Quote:Better off giving the Kurds their own country too lot less trouble all round.
Better off to send them to the UK. Oh I wish.
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