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December 28, 2013 at 4:32 pm (This post was last modified: December 28, 2013 at 4:40 pm by Violet.)
(December 28, 2013 at 4:18 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote:
(December 28, 2013 at 3:36 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: Kinsey scale is useless
Where's the dislike button?
Never implemented, too cliquey, much abusable.
If you want to defend the 'kinsey scale', you're welcome to. I'll be all too happy to illustrate (for, probably the 3rd-4th time here, at least) why it is a poor system... including the observations that it doesn't account for sexual fluctuancy, its scope is arbitrarily limited to precisely one (segmented) axis, and that it utterly ignores the basis of the net-result it is measuring... coming no closer to understanding *WHY* they hold that 'sexuality', and only succeeding in saying 'hey, at the time they answered this (assuming honesty, with themselves and with the test): they kind of liked girls but were mostly into guys! TAKE 5, GENTLEMEN: that's a wrap!'. It's like a scale on if it will rain today (edit: and how hard it is expected to rain)... but completely ignorant of *WHY IT IS GOING TO RAIN*, what makes it rain hard or soft, the range by which this rain is capable of changing, and if it might hail, snow, sleet, or even steam!
But, you're welcome to give it a shot. This kind of easy 'give them a learning opportunity' thing just doesn't do it for me... nothing big or complex happening here lately (that I know of).
(December 28, 2013 at 4:23 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: How should I know your sexual history? Depends on what u think counts as being a virgin.
The first portion is me being silly. Sometimes I do that.
The latter is the important bit.
(December 28, 2013 at 4:29 pm)TaraJo Wrote: True, there is some value to labels, but I think it's also possible to place too much importance on labels. I mean, Janice Raymond often refered to transsexuals as transsexuals, but was incredibly hostile towards us. On the other hand, I've met more than my share of people who call us "Shemale" or "tranny," not out of any hostility, but out of simply not knowing better. Again, labels aren't as important as the context that those labels are used in and what meaning you place on those labels.
As have I... but it remains incredibly unsettling to be called 'a shemale' for me, regardless of intent. I don't mind tranny, usually.
Pornography, and the word of mouth from such, is way too often the only guide on 'what transgendered women are'... but hey, the future is ahead, and there's hope for that to change
Useless or otherwise, I'm about a four on the Kinsey Scale. Like Nora, I'm more physically attracted to women, but I get along better with men, and tend to conduct my relationships accordingly. I've only recently noticed the slut shaming that happens to people like me, and it pisses me off. It's mostly lesbians and straight guys who do it, in my experience. I have never cheated on a partner, and I don't make out with chicks in bars to get attention, so the people trying to shame me and my ilk can fuck off.
Sorry. I don't think I realized how passionate I am about this until just now!
"Virginity" is a ridiculous concept anyway. We don't attempt to label people for not doing other things. Like, where are the labels for people who've never driven a car, people who've never been drunk, people who've never seen an episode of Doctor Who, etc.?
(December 28, 2013 at 4:39 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: "Virginity" is a ridiculous concept anyway. We don't attempt to label people for not doing other things. Like, where are the labels for people who've never driven a car, people who've never been drunk, people who've never seen an episode of Doctor Who, etc.?
People who don't drive r called " give me my keys"
People who can't haven't been drinking yet actually are called virgins or at least in my circle they are
People who've never watched Doctor Who (this includes me) are called "You TRAITOR! Burn the witch!"
December 28, 2013 at 4:47 pm (This post was last modified: December 28, 2013 at 4:48 pm by Violet.)
(December 28, 2013 at 4:39 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: "Virginity" is a ridiculous concept anyway. We don't attempt to label people for not doing other things. Like, where are the labels for people who've never driven a car, people who've never been drunk, people who've never seen an episode of Doctor Who, etc.?
I've got those here:
Never driven a car: Poor, or disabled.
Never been drunk: Smart, careful, or a heavyweight.
People who have never seen an episode of Doctor Who: Unfortunate(s).
December 28, 2013 at 5:26 pm (This post was last modified: December 28, 2013 at 5:30 pm by Fruity.)
I only tell my closest friends about my sexuality, because I have seen how bi-sexuals are seen. Call us sluts, attention whores, greedy, you name it. I have also been accused of making it up just to fit in a trend. To all of this I say, "FUCK YOU, BITCH."
My first crush ever was a girl and a spent my whole adolescence asking the god for forgiveness for what I was, and asking him to change me. When I had my first experience with a woman, I knew I would never be changed. This is who I am. I'd say I'm sorry, but fuck you and I can't be sorry for something I didn't choose anyway. If I did choose it, I'd still not be sorry.
I did find myself having to stick to one side by eras, per se. It was easier. When I was in my first stable relationship with a woman, people started saying I had "turned lesbian". I didn't mind it, because I was with her and she meant everything, and I wasn't thinking of being with anybody else anyway. Once that was over, it was just easier to stick to girls.
Then I got married and was with the guy for almost 8 years. During the time if conversations came up about sexuality, I preferred not to say I am bi, because people would not believe me. They'd think it was a cry for attention. Well, not just think it. I dared once to stand up for someone and say I was bisexual, and one of my male friends said, "Only until a man notices, huh?" Fuck you. I actually did tell him to fuck off.
So what if a person likes both? I stand for equality and am very animate about promoting it. Why don't I get the same treatment? If I like both boneless and regular chicken wings, does the fact that I order one mean that I made up the fact that I like both? Does it mean I am not capable of having one at a time? Does it mean that I will have it for lunch every day, any time, anywhere? Oh wait...
Anyway... I just feel that... fuck bigots.
Edit: Made a spelling edit, and will do no more. Too lazy right now.
... I only tell... but I don't hide it either. After all my back tattoo is about equality.
I only tell my closest friends about my sexuality, because I have seen how bi-sexuals are seen. Call us sluts, attention whores, greedy, you name it. I have also been accused of making it up just to fit in a trend. To all of this I say, "FUCK YOU, BITCH."
My first crush ever was a girl and a spent my whole adolescence asking the god for forgiveness for what I was, and asking him to change me. When I had my first experience with a woman, I knew I would never be changed. This is who I am. I'd say I'm sorry, but fuck you and I can't be sorry for something I didn't choose anyway. If I did choose it, I'd still not be sorry.
I did find myself having to stick to one side by eras, per se. It was easier. When I was in my first stable relationship with a woman, people started saying I had "turned lesbian". I didn't mind it, because I was with her and she meant everything, and I wasn't thinking of being with anybody else anyway. Once that was over, it was just easier to stick to girls.
Then I got married and was with the guy for almost 8 years. During the time if conversations came up about sexuality, I preferred not to say I am bi, because people would not believe me. They'd think it was a cry for attention. Well, not just think it. I dared once to stand up for someone and say I was bisexual, and one of my male friends said, "Only until a man notices, huh?" Fuck you. I actually did tell him to fuck off.
So what if a person likes both? I stand for equality and am very animate about promoting it. Why don't I get the same treatment? If I like both boneless and regular chicken wings, does the fact that I order one mean that I made up the fact that I like both? Does it mean I am not capable of having one at a time? Does it mean that I will have it for lunch every day, any time, anywhere? Oh wait...
Anyway... I just feel that... fuck bigots.
Edit: Made a spelling edit, and will do no more. Too lazy right now.
... I only tell... but I don't hide it either. After all my back tattoo is about equality.
