The Lunacy of Afrocentrism

[EgoRaptor]

Is there something wrong with ethnic pride?

Yes

[Belac Enrobso]

I used to be proud that I was from Kentucky.

Nuff said about that.

[EgoRaptor]

I used to be proud that I was from Kentucky.

Nuff said about that.

Were you proud to be an ethnic white Kentuckian? Because if not that isn't ethnic pride.

[Belac Enrobso]

USED to be, used to be.

[Fenix]

Is there something wrong with ethnic pride?

Yes

Elaborate?

[là bạn điên]

That's not my understanding of it.

And can't extremist be found in pretty much everything?

I've met Afrocentrists who are friendly and nice.

Really -what is your understanding? Afrocentrists who are 'friendly and Nice' I knwow christians who are friendly and nice. They still lie their little heads off.

Afrocentrism is built on lies.

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I am British/ English. I am not proud to be British or English it is just a statement of fact ,same as being white. I am not ashamed of any of those things either. I am not ashamed of having blonde hair or blue eyes (afro-centrists think i should be ) but I am not proud of it either. Ethnic pride is the source of racism.

[Fenix]

History is also built on lies.
'His' and '(s)tory' come to mind.

Let's be honest while we're being skeptical. Most of our culture is built on lies or misrepresentation of some sort. The illusion that we have a freedom of speech that gets our voice out is hilarious to me. Yes, we can come online and blog and scream our hearts out to our content. It won't get any publicity, and if it does, the publisher/reblogger will have an ulterior motive that might not always be on the same side as yours.I don't have any evidence I can present, but if you look into it yourself as I have (it's been to long to find/remember the web pages about it) the answers will jump out at you.

My point being this; you say Afrocentrism is lunacy because it's built on lies 1) explain why that is such a bad thing 2) much of the things around us are built on lies, so it's not exactly news that beliefs are built on lies 3) anyone who doesn't share the same viewpoints and beliefs of one group is going to think it's hogwash.

I think race seperation is stupid. But I think if you want to feel more in touch with your heritage and revisit places that your ancestors lived is fine. If you want to feel proud of what your ancestors built for you that's fine.

Pretty much anything as long as you aren't an inhibitor to others.

[là bạn điên]

History is also built on lies.
'His' and '(s)tory' come to mind.

The word has nothing to do with the male and female possessive forms..what next are you going to claim that libraries are where people 'bury lies'. History is not built on lies. History is a process,constantly under revision of attempting to discover the reality of past events. Certain narratives are often lies. It is inexcusable for a modern Historian to lie (or any academic for that matter

Let's be honest while we're being skeptical. Most of our culture is built on lies or misrepresentation of some sort.

Our culture is not built on lies. Lies are part of our culture but it is not 'built' on it.

The illusion that we have a freedom of speech that gets our voice out is hilarious to me

In the US you have freedom of sppech -in the UK no one has ever pretended that we have.


. Yes, we can come online and blog and scream our hearts out to our content. It won't get any publicity, and if it does, the publisher/reblogger will have an ulterior motive that might not always be on the same side as yours

Why does that NOT indicate freedom of speech. Do you think freedom of speech means freedom to force other people to disseminate your message?

.I don't have any evidence I can present, but if you look into it yourself as I have (it's been to long to find/remember the web pages about it) the answers will jump out at you.

I am not finding the evidence for your claim. YOU find it. The onus is on you to demonstrate not me to do your work for you.

My point being this; you say Afrocentrism is lunacy because it's built on lies

1) explain why that is such a bad thing.

Because teaching people lies is against the whole principle of education . it is also highly destructive to race relations as when non africn-american children learn the truth they resent being lied to.

2) much of the things around us are built on lies, so it's not exactly news that beliefs are built on lies

And many of us fight it. That's why we are against theism. its a lie. There is a difference Theists actually believe the lies and for many of them its real. Afrocentrists know they are lying. It has all been invented in living memory

3) anyone who doesn't share the same viewpoints and beliefs of one group is going to think it's hogwash.

What are you talking about

I think race seperation is stupid.

And yet here you support it

But I think if you want to feel more in touch with your heritage and revisit places that your ancestors lived is fine.

That has nothing to do with afrocentric lying. Finding out about your forbears has nothing to do with pretending they did things they didn't

If you want to feel proud of what your ancestors built for you that's fin

If it is based on delusion then its just lunacy, furthermore why should white or asian kids be taught as fact these utter lies? Just to make black people feel good?

Pretty much anything as long as you aren't an inhibitor to others.

Teaching lies is an inhibitor. teachers who misrepresent history to students should be disbarred from teaching. No one is ever going to get away with lying to any kids of mine

[Kayenneh]

Is there something wrong with ethnic pride?

Yes. Why should you take pride in something you had nothing to with, when the outcome is so random? I myself belong to a very specific lingual minority, and I was force fed throughout elementary and junior high that belonging to this particular minority is something I should be proud of. Why? Just because, I was given no further explanation. I see ethnic pride to get in the way of getting rid of racism and segregation, because if you feel the need to be proud of yourself due to heritage, that you have to honor it no matter what, makes you so focused on that you are different and it feeds the "them vs. us" mentality. If you want to be proud of something, be so because of what you've managed and achieved, not because of tradition and heritage.

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If you are going to learn about your own history then its warts and all. As a British person my history includes being the biggest empire the world has ever seen but it also includes the slave trade. It is about the incredible contributions to world culture that Britain has made but its also about other cultures being quashed as a result. Is about the incredible acheivements of our scientists but also about the misuse of the power that comes with that technology.

Afrocentrism and 'black history month' doesn;t accept that. Its all about 'celebrating' blackness and stangely its not big on the really important cultural contributions of black people but Invents shit pretending that all sorts of inventions were first made by black people (example ice cream) or that Cleopatra was black or other such nonsense it won't touch on 'bad things' africans may have done.