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Poll: Your loved one was murdered in cold-blood.
This poll is closed.
They should be imprisoned for life.
26.67%
8 26.67%
They should be executed by the State.
13.33%
4 13.33%
I should have the right to kill them myself.
23.33%
7 23.33%
Executing murderers is morally wrong.
26.67%
8 26.67%
Executing murderers is morally right.
10.00%
3 10.00%
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The DEATH Penalty
#21
RE: Is the death penalty cruel and unusual punishment by definition?
(January 18, 2014 at 2:43 am)KUSA Wrote: The only problem there is with the death penalty is we don't use it enough. I mean we really need to clean them prisons out and get some more elbow room in them.
I am in favor of public executions with paid admission to see it. The money could always go to a good cause.

I'm going to assume you're being sarcastic, since I've already stated we can make room by letting out all non violent offenders.
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http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

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#22
RE: Is the death penalty cruel and unusual punishment by definition?
Prison is cruel and unusual punishment. Tongue

The problem with capital punishment is the expense of a capital trial and society's lack of moral clarity.
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#23
Re: RE: Is the death penalty cruel and unusual punishment by definition?
(January 18, 2014 at 10:43 am)Chad32 Wrote:
(January 18, 2014 at 2:43 am)KUSA Wrote: The only problem there is with the death penalty is we don't use it enough. I mean we really need to clean them prisons out and get some more elbow room in them.
I am in favor of public executions with paid admission to see it. The money could always go to a good cause.

I'm going to assume you're being sarcastic, since I've already stated we can make room by letting out all non violent offenders.

OK a little bit of sarcasm but I do believe that if someone is a heinous criminal especially one with a life sentence should be put down.
I also think that a lot of non violent offenders should not be there in the first place. An example of this would be a pot smoker that got caught.
I also believe that when someone is released they should have all rights restored as they paid their debt to society. Some will argue that they shouldn't get their rights restored because they still pose a potential threat to others. My answer to that is simple. If they are potentially dangerous then don't let them out of prison in the first place.
You know our prison system in America has turned into a business that is there to make money. I saw where a judge was sending young men to a private prison with extra longs sentences and the prison was paying him for it.
I know I just ranted on almost incoherently but I just drank some strong coffee and am under the influence of it.
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#24
RE: Is the death penalty cruel and unusual punishment by definition?
I also believe that if someone is released, they should be considered having their debt paid. If they can't get work and people won't associate with them, how will they actually be constructive citizens?

I have no idea why they turned prison into a business. That's not the kind of thing that should need a quota to fill.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#25
RE: Is the death penalty cruel and unusual punishment by definition?
Agreed. All rights should be restored when you return to society. Also, I think that prisoners should be allowed to vote while in prison too.
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#26
RE: Is the death penalty cruel and unusual punishment by definition?
Assuming they're going to get out again, and they are still supposed to have basic rights, I don't see why not. If they're meant to stay the rest of their lives, the going ons of the nation probably shouldn't concern them.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#27
RE: Is the death penalty cruel and unusual punishment by definition?
Yeah but even life prisoners should be able to vote for a candidate that is pro prison reform. I would even say that a lot of the prisoners that are in their for life have family that they might vote in favor for as well. For example a prisoner with kids may vote for a state represenative/senator/governor or a president that would increase spending towards education.
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#28
RE: Is the death penalty cruel and unusual punishment by definition?
Yeah maybe. Especially if they have access to the news or something. If they're able to watch the news and maybe read the paper or whatever, then they should probably still have a voice on some issues. It may depend on how cut off from that they are.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#29
RE: Is the death penalty cruel and unusual punishment by definition?
Quote:OK a little bit of sarcasm but I do believe that if someone is a heinous criminal especially one with a life sentence should be put down.

So you are not impressed by the numbers of people who have been wrongly convicted by our terribly flawed judicial system?
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#30
RE: Is the death penalty cruel and unusual punishment by definition?


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