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Re: RE: Is the death penalty cruel and unusual punishment by definition?
January 18, 2014 at 3:36 pm
(January 18, 2014 at 2:48 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:OK a little bit of sarcasm but I do believe that if someone is a heinous criminal especially one with a life sentence should be put down.
So you are not impressed by the numbers of people who have been wrongly convicted by our terribly flawed judicial system?
The judicial system is screwed and will always be that way. Since it is flawed nobody should be held accountable for anything right? Wrong!
Let me tell ya somthing. A member of my family was raped, brutally beaten, then had her throat cut ending her life. The piece of shit that did it got life. He should have got the death penalty. He deserves to be tortured to death.
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RE: Is the death penalty cruel and unusual punishment by definition?
January 18, 2014 at 6:02 pm
(This post was last modified: January 18, 2014 at 6:12 pm by bennyboy.)
Because of modern psychology, I view "punishment" as a method of behavior modification through conditioning, aka learning. Killing someone will certainly modify his behavior, but it will also mean the person never gets the chance to change. More importantly, he will never have the chance to make amends.
If it's obvious someone will never change, and will never make amends, then fuck them. If someone pisses on the umbrella of protection provided by their society by repeatedly violating the rights of others, then I don't think it's unusual at all when that society decides to remove them from existence. And death isn't particularly cruel, when in many other societies, it would have been torture, slow starvation, pictures of your family murdered one by one, and then finally death.
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The DEATH Penalty
January 19, 2014 at 12:53 pm
(This post was last modified: January 19, 2014 at 1:10 pm by Cinjin.)
SIMILAR THREAD - THREAD MERGED HERE
If you want to participate in this thread, it will be assumed that your opinion on capital punishment (the Death Penalty)
is contingent upon the scenario that a violent criminal brutally murdered your most beloved. Your wife,
your son, your daughter ... whomever you love the most was taken from you in a brutal cold-blooded manner.
My position:
I have always fully supported the death penalty, but not in its current form (at least not here in the USA). Due to the endless appeals process, and the myriad of expenses brought on by attorneys, judges, prison expenses and clerical hullabaloo, it costs the government far more to execute criminals than it does to keep them in prison. The day after they are found guilty by a jury of their peers, murderers and rapists should be blindfolded and executed by firing squad. Bullets are cheap.
For those in opposition:
Keep in mind that you can't have it both ways. You can't oppose the death penalty and make an exception for your loved one. That's just not reality. AND if you oppose the death penalty, but feel you should be allowed to pull a DEXTER by killing the criminal yourself, that makes you a hypocrite, because the real hidden truth is, you have no problem with causing the death of a living being.
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RE: The DEATH Penalty
January 19, 2014 at 12:57 pm
(This post was last modified: January 19, 2014 at 12:59 pm by Chad32.)
I just recently started a thread on the death penalty, in regards to whether it's cruel and unusual by definition. Basically I am of the opinion that the death penalty should be used in extreme cases. Not handled lightly, and certainly as a last resort. Rehabilitation should be attempted first.
Now if I just saw someone brutally murder my niece, I wouldn't exactly be in a rational mindset.
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RE: The DEATH Penalty
January 19, 2014 at 12:58 pm
Quote:The day after they are found guilty by a jury of their peers,
Think about some of your peers and ask yourself (honestly) if you'd trust them with your own life.
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RE: The DEATH Penalty
January 19, 2014 at 1:00 pm
(January 19, 2014 at 12:57 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I just recently started a thread on the death penalty,
Sorry Chad, I didn't see it.
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RE: The DEATH Penalty
January 19, 2014 at 1:01 pm
I oppose the death penalty, but believe in summary execution for counter-revolutionaries during revolutionary times.
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RE: The DEATH Penalty
January 19, 2014 at 1:03 pm
(January 19, 2014 at 12:58 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:The day after they are found guilty by a jury of their peers,
Think about some of your peers and ask yourself (honestly) if you'd trust them with your own life.
I trust hardly no one, but I'm not willing to use that mindset as a reason to feed and house human garbage.
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RE: The DEATH Penalty
January 19, 2014 at 1:05 pm
(January 19, 2014 at 1:01 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: I oppose the death penalty, but believe in summary execution for counter-revolutionaries during revolutionary times.
Than you don't oppose the death penalty. Killing people is killing people regardless of your agenda.
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RE: The DEATH Penalty
January 19, 2014 at 1:08 pm
(January 19, 2014 at 1:05 pm)Cinjin Wrote: (January 19, 2014 at 1:01 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: I oppose the death penalty, but believe in summary execution for counter-revolutionaries during revolutionary times.
Than you don't oppose the death penalty. Killing people is killing people regardless of your agenda. Yes I do, but revolutionary times call for revolutionary measures.
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