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Is it sexist to criticize feminism?
#81
RE: Is it sexist to criticize feminism?
He has extremist views, yeah, but that doesn't make him a troll. I mean, you don't have to take him seriously. I'm just saying the argument was bad. It's like conceding defeat to toss that out there. Ah well, carry on.
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#82
RE: Is it sexist to criticize feminism?
(February 2, 2014 at 5:49 pm)futilethewinds Wrote:
(February 2, 2014 at 5:25 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Going trekky here, first off the ferderation is not communist as they have a elected government, unlike any communist nation in history. Secondly star trek is a work of fiction and is overly Idealistic at times.
Democracy is not inherently counter to communist ideology. Just because it has not yet been done, does not mean it could never be done.

And I know Star Trek is a work of fiction. ROFLOL

I was not pointing out that star trek is fiction, but rather that it is too idealistic at times. And communism mixed with democracy is not communism, and would more aptly be described as socialism.
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#83
RE: Is it sexist to criticize feminism?
Actually, communism is nothing more than socialism with the added goal of making the society moneyless and classless. Since no communist society, except perhaps that of pol pot, ever really achieved moneylessness, and none ever approached classlessness, it would be fair to say communism as has ever been practiced is a subclass of socialism.

(February 2, 2014 at 7:12 pm)futilethewinds Wrote:
(February 2, 2014 at 6:49 pm)Shell B Wrote: I don't think kilic is a troll. If he is, he has wasted an awful lot of time just to half ass troll.
Well, if he's serious he's an epic idiot or completely insane. Did you catch the thread where he said both white and black people were better off during slavery? Yeah. Either way, I still don't think I should take him very seriously.

Kilic's brain operates at too low a level for there to be any difference between sane and insane.

(February 2, 2014 at 6:27 pm)Shell B Wrote: That being said, communism is a heap of fucking dog shit. It has done absolutely fuckall to help anyone. It has a history nearly as bad and possibly worse than dictatorships. I might actually be hard pressed to find a difference.


You realize you are comparing apples and oranges, right?

Communism is a form of social order structured on collective ownership of capital goods and professed to pursue the goal of eventually making the society moneyless and classless; where as dictatorship is a form of government.

Most communist systems are oligarchic, but a few are dictatorships. There have been communist systems that were briefly democratic as well. But there are many other social orders that can be democratic, dictatorships, or oligarchic.
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#84
RE: Is it sexist to criticize feminism?
I'm not really comparing them in the way your explanation makes it look I am, Chuck. If I say, "My water is as warm as piss." I'm not saying water is a bodily fluid or that piss is a beverage.

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear enough. Look at the results of communism in history. Take Cambodia or China for example. Then look at the results of dictatorships in history; it's easy enough to find a hundred examples. Do you see any difference in the result? Starvation and concentration camps vs. starvation and labor camps. Better?

Also, never said communist systems are dictatorships. *shrugs*
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#85
RE: Is it sexist to criticize feminism?
Y'know, going back to the original question, but am I the only person here who thinks it's a bad idea to put anything in the realm of 'we can't question that'? I mean, for a long time, I held Jesus and the Bible in that realm and now I regret all the time I wasted there. I'd hate to fall for more bullshit under the guise of feminism because I'm afraid to question it, and if it isn't bullshit (or parts of it aren't bullshit), the questioning would only help me solidify that belief.
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