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The Computer Thread
#21
RE: The Computer Thread
(February 16, 2014 at 11:31 am)Napoléon Wrote: Like Tonus said. Posting computer specs is like posting your car specs. You can't break into someone's car by knowing how much horsepower they've got. Fuckin' idiot.

I currently have an Acer M3470G. It has a 2.2 GHz quad-core AMD A6-3620 processor. It has 8 GB DDR3 RAM. It runs Windows 7 Ultimate.

Come at me bro
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#22
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My extensive knowledge of Acer M3470G's means I can hack into your atheist forums account. Wut.
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#23
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(February 16, 2014 at 5:04 pm)rasetsu Wrote:


I don't know why, but I've always found gaming on a console to be a more immersive experience.


I don't know I've always found PC to be pretty immersive. I mean bring up a game throw on your headphones and woop some ass.

I find consoles to be a waste of money that can't compete with any halfway decent computer and a good video card.

Consoles have yet to see the awesome that is triple screen gaming :-)

FPS games are probably the most annoying thing you could ever play with a controller lol
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#24
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I have 3... 4 computers at home.
The main desktop, bought in 2007: core 2 Duo at 1.8GHz or something... 2GB RAM. Originally had a nvidia 8600 (failed 2 months after the warranty), now has a nvidia GT430. 19" 4:3 screen. win7 home. Nowadays used mostly for browsing the net and for the kids to play on emulators. Managed to play the latest Tomb Raider on it with most of the graphical stuff turned on and in sensible ranges.

My laptop (technically, not at home right now): bought in 2009, core 2 duo at 2.5GHz, 4GB RAM and a nvidia 103m or something crappy like that. Win7 home. Good enough to play World of Tanks at about 20fps with most fancy graphics turned off.

The kids' netbook: intel atom at 1.6GHz, 2GB RAM, win7 home. the kids use it for emulators, mostly... N64 and GBA.

Then.... there's the tiny Raspbery pi, with a 32GB USB stick attached, running raspbian and serving a few services.... https, ssh, a mediawiki... and that's it, I think. I need to buy a secondary SDcard to keep XBMC and switch when I want to use that thing connected to the TV.
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#25
RE: The Computer Thread
(February 18, 2014 at 10:49 am)wolf39us Wrote: I don't know I've always found PC to be pretty immersive. I mean bring up a game throw on your headphones and woop some ass.

That's just your personal preference though. I much prefer sitting on a couch in pure comfort with nothing but a joypad in my hands and a 50 inch tv across the room. To me that's much more immersive than slumping over a computer screen.

Quote:I find consoles to be a waste of money that can't compete with any halfway decent computer and a good video card.

What if I told you, people who play on console don't necessarily care about that. Besides, I think this whole 'consoles are a waste of money' argument to be complete bollocks. To get the best top of the line PC you have to pay a lot more than for a console, and you also miss out on the plethora of console exclusive games. "Oh but we get mods" I hear you cry. Sure there's some good benefits to that, but mainly, from my experience, mods are a lot more hassle than they're worth.

Quote:Consoles have yet to see the awesome that is triple screen gaming :-)

Why have 3 screens when you can have 1 big one? I just don't get it.

Quote:FPS games are probably the most annoying thing you could ever play with a controller lol

In your opinion. I think the complete opposite is true, I can't for the life of me understand why people enjoy playing with a keyboard and mouse. A controller was designed for gaming, the same cannot be said for K and M.

PS... sorry for hijacking the thread and starting a console/pc war!
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#26
RE: The Computer Thread
(February 18, 2014 at 12:08 pm)Napoléon Wrote: That's just your personal preference though. I much prefer sitting on a couch in pure comfort with nothing but a joypad in my hands and a 50 inch tv across the room. To me that's much more immersive than slumping over a computer screen

Okay, we can agree this is personal preference.

Quote:What if I told you, people who play on console don't necessarily care about that. Besides, I think this whole 'consoles are a waste of money' argument to be complete bollocks. To get the best top of the line PC you have to pay a lot more than for a console

To get the best PC yes it would be thousands of dollars. But what if I told you a cheap build for about $500 can outperform every console on the market?

Quote:"Oh but we get mods" I hear you cry. Sure there's some good benefits to that, but mainly, from my experience, mods are a lot more hassle than they're worth

Mods are quite easy to install.. especially games running with steam. There are whole games based on mods TF2 and Left4dead2 are good examples of this.

Quote:Why have 3 screens when you can have 1 big one? I just don't get it.

The difference is FOV (Field of View) and overall quality.

5760x1080 > 1920x1080

Here are some examples

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/149864...-5760x1080

Quote:In your opinion. I think the complete opposite is true, I can't for the life of me understand why people enjoy playing with a keyboard and mouse. A controller was designed for gaming, the same cannot be said for K and M.

A mouse is by far more precise in every way. There's just no way around this really. A controller has two speeds... slow and fast. A mouse translates the speed of the movement of your hand into the game.

Are you also aware that most FPS on console have a slight aim assist added into the game... if you're close enough to your target then the game will aim for you. Why implement such a feature if controllers are as accurate as mouses?
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#27
RE: The Computer Thread
(February 18, 2014 at 12:57 pm)wolf39us Wrote: To get the best PC yes it would be thousands of dollars. But what if I told you a cheap build for about $500 can outperform every console on the market?

If you told me that I'd say show me. But I bet your ass you'd have to build it yourself. Not only is this a pain in the ass for many people, I'd also say good luck with having a warranty on it.

I notice you conveniently ignored my point about console exclusive games...

Quote:Mods are quite easy to install.. especially games running with steam. There are whole games based on mods TF2 and Left4dead2 are good examples of this.

Some mods are, some mods aren't. I've modded quite a few games now, and the main issue is compatibility with other mods. This can be not only time consuming to sort out but just generally a pain in the ass. Overall I'm just not that fussed about mods.

Quote:The difference is FOV (Field of View) and overall quality.

5760x1080 > 1920x1080

Here are some examples

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/149864...-5760x1080

Field of view, fair point. Overall quality? Debatable. Entirely dependent on what you consider to be quality and if it's graphics, most console gamers I know wouldn't really care. I also wouldn't say it helps immersiveness to have 3 separate screens.

But again, this is mainly just personal preference.

Quote:A mouse is by far more precise in every way. There's just no way around this really. A controller has two speeds... slow and fast. A mouse translates the speed of the movement of your hand into the game.

Who said accuracy is the be all and end all of good design? I was talking in terms of how it actually feels to play with a controller as opposed to a keyboard and mouse. I much prefer the former.

Quote:Are you also aware that most FPS on console have a slight aim assist added into the game... if you're close enough to your target then the game will aim for you. Why implement such a feature if controllers are as accurate as mouses?

Again, I never mentioned accuracy. I have no qualms saying a mouse is more accurate than a joypad. But if you think that's going to make me say a mouse is better for gaming then you're completely missing the point.
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#28
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The triple display setup is nice, but unrealistic for most people, and blows price comparison out of the water.

Napolean's point about accuracy is valid. I had a 3D controller called a space orb that you used by pulling and twisting an attached ball. It was not very accurate, but incredibly immersive. I didn't get very far into most games because of its inaccuracy, but I didn't care. I could have chosen a mouse, but I didn't, even though I knew how it was affecting my accuracy.

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#29
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oh.... a console VS pc gaming fight!!!

PC:
- You can buy a controller and use it on the PC.
- keyboard+mouse, while not built with gaming in sight, provide very accurate motion relay into the game... depending on the game, this can be important or irrelevant.
- Price can get high, if you want equal graphics to consoles, while carrying windows underneath... but hardware is getting cheaper and cheaper by the month and... half a year ago... you could get a cheap PC with more capabilities than the (then) best consoles.
- Cheap ever increasing pool of games.
- Can be used for purposes other than gaming! Wink
- If your rig is sufficiently powerful (with the corresponding price tag), you can emulate consoles and play console exclusives on the PC... almost any console ever made! (http://www.emulator-zone.com/)
- Oh, let's not forget: exclusive PC games! They exist, too!
- [Disclaimer: don't do this, kids!] Easy to get free cracked games online which are also simple to run... no need for jailbreaks and other weird hardware hacks.
- Game prices drop rather quickly.

Console:
- Pre-built. All specs are taken care of.
- Games just work, no need to mess around with graphical options and other nuisances.
- Dedicated controller. All games expect this interface. it just works.
- Exclusive games.
- Game prices don't fall too much, do they?
- Can browse the internet, nowadays... Oh my!

Then you have the wii family...
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#30
RE: The Computer Thread
(February 18, 2014 at 1:17 pm)Napoléon Wrote: If you told me that I'd say show me. But I bet your ass you'd have to build it yourself.
You bet your ass you'd have to build it. But I never said PC gamers didn't have to have knowledge in PC building in order to score the cheaper yet more powerful setups.

(February 18, 2014 at 1:17 pm)Napoléon Wrote: I'd also say good luck with having a warranty on it.
If you're building your PC most manufacturers provide a 1-2 year warranty on a per part basis. It's not as easy as just handing back your console and waiting for a new one sure... but therein lies the trade off. In the end, I can fix/replace any individual part as well as upgrade. But console gamers? Nope! They've got to buy a new console.

(February 18, 2014 at 1:17 pm)Napoléon Wrote: I notice you conveniently ignored my point about console exclusive games...

This was actually not intentional... I missed it entirely. There's a few console exclusives out there, but most games do make it to PC. I can assure you however that there are a ton more PC "exclusives" vs Console exclusives.

Quote:Some mods are, some mods aren't. I've modded quite a few games now, and the main issue is compatibility with other mods. This can be not only time consuming to sort out but just generally a pain in the ass. Overall I'm just not that fussed about mods.

Eh, some people have fun with mods... but you'd be pretty hard pressed to not eventually come across mods that don't work with eachother. I don't mod personally, but I do see the fun in doing it at least.

Quote:Field of view, fair point. Overall quality? Debatable. Entirely dependent on what you consider to be quality and if it's graphics, most console gamers I know wouldn't really care. I also wouldn't say it helps immersiveness to have 3 separate screens.

There is no "what I consider to be quality".

Have you ever triple screen gamed? It's whole nature is to be immersive. Center screen plus left+right gives you added peripheral vision and greater field of view. I'm not sure what else could be more immersive!


Quote:Again, I never mentioned accuracy. I have no qualms saying a mouse is more accurate than a joypad. But if you think that's going to make me say a mouse is better for gaming then you're completely missing the point.

Okay, sure. Some game types do have a better feel on a controller. But that's why USB controllers exist (which btw you can use an xbox360 or PS3 controller on PC all the same).



In the end, consoles are cheaply made computers with no expand-ability. They are completely locked down and are unable to do anything outside of what the console maker wants you to do.
Consoles are outdated almost immediately and will stay that way until a new console is made. Consoles do not provide the option to use K+B on 99% of the games out there.
PC game prices are almost universally cheaper and are almost always having a sale... my god the shit you can buy on Steam.
On top of this, I can emulate virtually any console Xbox360 or older I want and plug in a controller... and bam, console gaming! Course I'm not too sure why you'd want to emulate Xbox 360 when almost every game is available for PC lol.
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