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Just ugh!
#41
RE: Just ugh!
(February 3, 2014 at 3:16 pm)FlyingNarwhal Wrote: The main driving factor of a man's sexiness is confidence,

A lot of times, yeah, it seems that way. Still, individual tastes still vary. I mean, who doesn't like a partner who's confident?

(February 3, 2014 at 3:48 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Confidence and niceness are not mutually exclusive.

Well, actually, this can go back to something I said earlier. If you lack the social skills to realize your own shortcomings, it can look like confidence. Heck, in a way it IS confident, but if you lack the awareness of what other people are thinking or saying about you, chances are you aren't going to be concerned with what they feel about other things, too. In other words, certain kinds of confidence discourage empathy and lack of empathy usually makes people an asshole.
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#42
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(February 3, 2014 at 3:16 pm)FlyingNarwhal Wrote: You will never be able to friend your way into a girl's bed.
Every serious relationship I've had (and a few frivolous ones!) has started as a friendship and some one-night-stands have turned into friendships and then into relationships. I've always been the type of guy who wants to know someone before I get serious (n.b. sex isn't always serious!).

So to me, 'Friendzone' seems to be a recent invention, a mainly-useless oversimplification, created by jealous people as a way of traversing the 'denial/anger/bargaining' stage of the grief cycle. I find it unrepresentative of the complexity of human relationships and it bears little resemblance to many successful relationships where, like mine, friendship was one of the keys to identifying a suitable partner.

Yes, I know from experience that it feels horrible when someone you like doesn't reciprocate (unrequited love's a bastard!), especially when you're close to them and maybe have to watch them form relationships with someone else. And yes, given the likely amount of emotional investment, it's easy to see how someone might feel 'entitled' to affection; loss & shock can easily skew our perceptions of others' motives and our emotions. But reifying & rationalising it as a 'friendzone'? Well that's just trapping yourself in the grief cycle; it'll harm your other relationships to view some in this way.

I'll dump 'the friendzone' in with other pseudoscientific nonsense.
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#43
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I think "Find someone else" isn't said enough on matters of unrequited love.
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#44
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I've been married so long I don't even remember all this stuff.
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