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I don't understand how some religion isn't child abuse
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RE: I don't understand how some religion isn't child abuse
Why stop at some religion?
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RE: I don't understand how some religion isn't child abuse
(February 7, 2014 at 4:19 am)Boris Karloff Wrote: When I was in high school there was a girl from a muslim family who had a full-grown beard because of a hormone imbalance and the family wouldn't let her shave it because they thought it would fuck them up spiritually or something. Can you imagine how psychologically scarring this was for the girl, and the bullying that resulted?

There are also countless examples of extreme psychological manipulation and cruelty from other religions (Christianity from my experience).

I split religion into two main categories: Stupid and Harmful. The stupid entries just frustrate me. The harmful ones enrage me. Why is some of this stuff publicly known and nothing is done about it? Is there not a line between religious freedom and abuse? I guess I'm just venting at this point but it blows my fucking mind.

No child has a choice. Of course a parent's going to teach them how they think that the universe works. Everyone, from the WBC to atheists, "abuse" their kids. What you and I call freethinking they call brainwashing. What you and I call brainwashing they call freethinking. People who have a belief will raise their kids in that set belief, and to the opposing viewpoint that's child abuse.

In short, your premise shows a very shortsighted view on the whole issue. Tongue
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RE: I don't understand how some religion isn't child abuse
The example Boris gave I would say is a form of abuse, but I wouldn't consider my raising as a catholic as abuse. Obviously it's a person by person case. Some families are a little bit more extreme then others, that's for sure.
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RE: I don't understand how some religion isn't child abuse
Quote:The example Boris gave I would say is a form of abuse, but I wouldn't consider my raising as a catholic as abuse.

Right. Catholics leave abuse to the priests.
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RE: I don't understand how some religion isn't child abuse
(February 9, 2014 at 1:56 pm)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:
(February 7, 2014 at 4:19 am)Boris Karloff Wrote: When I was in high school there was a girl from a muslim family who had a full-grown beard because of a hormone imbalance and the family wouldn't let her shave it because they thought it would fuck them up spiritually or something. Can you imagine how psychologically scarring this was for the girl, and the bullying that resulted?

There are also countless examples of extreme psychological manipulation and cruelty from other religions (Christianity from my experience).

I split religion into two main categories: Stupid and Harmful. The stupid entries just frustrate me. The harmful ones enrage me. Why is some of this stuff publicly known and nothing is done about it? Is there not a line between religious freedom and abuse? I guess I'm just venting at this point but it blows my fucking mind.

No child has a choice. Of course a parent's going to teach them how they think that the universe works. Everyone, from the WBC to atheists, "abuse" their kids. What you and I call freethinking they call brainwashing. What you and I call brainwashing they call freethinking. People who have a belief will raise their kids in that set belief, and to the opposing viewpoint that's child abuse.

In short, your premise shows a very shortsighted view on the whole issue. Tongue

With that mindset, no abusive parent would ever be brought to justice.

(February 9, 2014 at 1:30 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Why stop at some religion?

Because if religion is man-made, technically someone can just fuse their own religion. The only religions I view negatively are those that hold condemnation against those who don't follow them.

(February 9, 2014 at 1:30 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Why stop at some religion?

Because if religion is man-made, technically someone can just fuse their own religion. The only religions I view negatively are those that hold condemnation against those who don't follow them.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." - Edward Gibbon
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RE: I don't understand how some religion isn't child abuse
(February 9, 2014 at 10:23 pm)Boris Karloff Wrote: Because if religion is man-made, technically someone can just fuse their own religion. The only religions I view negatively are those that hold condemnation against those who don't follow them.

Do you deal well with authority in real life or do you resent anyone having authority over you?
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RE: I don't understand how some religion isn't child abuse
(February 9, 2014 at 10:23 pm)Boris Karloff Wrote:
(February 9, 2014 at 1:56 pm)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote: No child has a choice. Of course a parent's going to teach them how they think that the universe works. Everyone, from the WBC to atheists, "abuse" their kids. What you and I call freethinking they call brainwashing. What you and I call brainwashing they call freethinking. People who have a belief will raise their kids in that set belief, and to the opposing viewpoint that's child abuse.

In short, your premise shows a very shortsighted view on the whole issue. Tongue

With that mindset, no abusive parent would ever be brought to justice.

Yes, you're right. What we call pedophilia, others call marriage. What we call beating, some call discipline.
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