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How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
(June 18, 2015 at 6:57 pm)KUSA Wrote: It's just good wholesome family reading.

Yeah. I know. That's why I'm so perverted.
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
I was reminded that you have a part of the bible where Jesus says to hate your family, or you can't come to him. Yet anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and murderers don't get into heaven. Jesus may be the only way to heaven, but he makes it as difficult as possible for people to do that. Narrow path to heaven indeed. Admitting your plan isn't effective doesn't absolve you of coming up with a better idea.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
(June 18, 2015 at 8:26 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I was reminded that you have a part of the bible where Jesus says to hate your family, or you can't come to him. Yet anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and murderers don't get into heaven. Jesus may be the only way to heaven, but he makes it as difficult as possible for people to do that. Narrow path to heaven indeed. Admitting your plan isn't effective doesn't absolve you of coming up with a better idea.

Do you really think Jesus was telling us to hate our mother and father? People use hyperbole every day. When I say I hate green peas, I don't really mean I hate them. God commanded us to honor our father and mother and love our neighbor. Why would he then turn around and say we must hate our parents? What he is saying is that we mustn't put anything before God. If it comes to a point of obeying our parents or God, we must obey God
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
A better question might be "how can anyone who has read the entire bible remain a xtian?"
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
(June 18, 2015 at 9:03 pm)Lek Wrote: Do you really think Jesus was telling us to hate our mother and father?  People use hyperbole every day.
But none of them are delivering a message that could affect the eternal future of billions of people. Was it really too much to ask that he make his message as clear and unambiguous as possible? If the god of the Bible is perfect, then it's pretty clear that he just enjoys messing with us.
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
(June 18, 2015 at 9:03 pm)Lek Wrote:
(June 18, 2015 at 8:26 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I was reminded that you have a part of the bible where Jesus says to hate your family, or you can't come to him. Yet anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and murderers don't get into heaven. Jesus may be the only way to heaven, but he makes it as difficult as possible for people to do that. Narrow path to heaven indeed. Admitting your plan isn't effective doesn't absolve you of coming up with a better idea.

Do you really think Jesus was telling us to hate our mother and father?  People use hyperbole every day.  When I say I hate green peas, I don't really mean I hate them. God commanded us to honor our father and mother and love our neighbor.  Why would he then turn around and say we must hate our parents?  What he is saying is that we mustn't put anything before God.  If it comes to a point of obeying our parents or God, we must obey God

Ah, yes - the Bible doesn't mean what it says, it says what you want it to mean.  Dodgy
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
(June 19, 2015 at 7:43 am)Tonus Wrote:
(June 18, 2015 at 9:03 pm)Lek Wrote: Do you really think Jesus was telling us to hate our mother and father?  People use hyperbole every day.
But none of them are delivering a message that could affect the eternal future of billions of people.  Was it really too much to ask that he make his message as clear and unambiguous as possible?  If the god of the Bible is perfect, then it's pretty clear that he just enjoys messing with us.

I was thinking the same thing. This is  a god that is supposed to see the future. The commandment to hate your family is one that could very easily be misinterpreted or misused by cult leaders. Why say something if you know that it might cause confusion?

I also want to know how Lek knows that Jesus was using hyperbole? It doesn't really make sense as a hyperbolic statement anyway. If a said, Lek, you need to hate your family and listen to me, you would be justified in telling me to go away. I couldn't claim that I was speaking in exaggerations to make a point because that wouldn't make sense in that context.

The bible contradicts itself. That is why there are so many Christian denominations who are certain that they are the 'true' Christians. God is omniscient, he could have made certain that his words were clear and easy to understand.
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
(June 18, 2015 at 9:03 pm)Lek Wrote:
(June 18, 2015 at 8:26 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I was reminded that you have a part of the bible where Jesus says to hate your family, or you can't come to him. Yet anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and murderers don't get into heaven. Jesus may be the only way to heaven, but he makes it as difficult as possible for people to do that. Narrow path to heaven indeed. Admitting your plan isn't effective doesn't absolve you of coming up with a better idea.

Do you really think Jesus was telling us to hate our mother and father?  People use hyperbole every day.  When I say I hate green peas, I don't really mean I hate them. God commanded us to honor our father and mother and love our neighbor.  Why would he then turn around and say we must hate our parents?  What he is saying is that we mustn't put anything before God.  If it comes to a point of obeying our parents or God, we must obey God

Yes, that seemed to be exactly what he was saying. Those were his words. If it was hyperbole, then he should be more clear. Apparently a lake of fire is on the line, and he's busy using parables and hyperbole. hence christians killing other christians over interpretations, and parents kicking their children out the door when they come out as gay or atheist. People have been killed for not following the bible to the letter. Jesus admonished the pharisees for doing it, but I'm not sure how you could blame them when the crime for slipping up is almost always death.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
(February 10, 2014 at 6:32 pm)StoryBook Wrote:
(February 10, 2014 at 6:19 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: So they're hypocrites?  I don't find that a contraindication to be being Christian, Muslim, atheist, or anything else.  They may just be bad at it.

Not all are hypocrites..It's more doing what they want and twisting the words to make it right for them. Then you are seen as wrong for not agreeing.

No no....Christains are not hypocrites....if they disagree with another's view of the Bible and want to "interrept" it differently they just spin off another denomination to add to the roughly 43,000 that already exist.

Am I right?
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
No one is a true christian to begin with.
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