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How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
(February 10, 2014 at 6:04 pm)KUSA Wrote: I had a conversation with Christian girl yesterday and it randomly led to the subject of homosexuality.
She believes that it is perfectly acceptable to be a homosexual because you should be able to love anyone you want.
I asked her how she could say that and call herself a Christian. She became iritated. I pointed out that her Bible clearly states that it is an abomination. She finally said " I don't care what it says" and ended the conversation. The stress caused by the cognitive dissonance was pretty high.
I find Christians do this a lot. They reject what they don't like in the Bible.

You can't be a Christian unless you cherry-pick which parts you want to believe.  The bible is shot thru with contradictions.  If you read that god can do everything, and also that he can't defeat iron chariots, then you have to pick one or the other.  You can't believe both.

Atheists, on the other hand, can read the bible literally.  We can say, "That's a contradiction.  The bible has to be wrong about at least one of the two conflicting statements."
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
(February 10, 2014 at 6:04 pm)KUSA Wrote: I had a conversation with Christian girl yesterday and it randomly led to the subject of homosexuality.
She believes that it is perfectly acceptable to be a homosexual because you should be able to love anyone you want.
I asked her how she could say that and call herself a Christian. She became iritated. I pointed out that her Bible clearly states that it is an abomination. She finally said " I don't care what it says" and ended the conversation. The stress caused by the cognitive dissonance was pretty high.
I find Christians do this a lot. They reject what they don't like in the Bible.

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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
(February 10, 2014 at 6:04 pm)KUSA Wrote: I had a conversation with Christian girl yesterday and it randomly led to the subject of homosexuality.
She believes that it is perfectly acceptable to be a homosexual because you should be able to love anyone you want.
I asked her how she could say that and call herself a Christian. She became iritated. I pointed out that her Bible clearly states that it is an abomination. She finally said " I don't care what it says" and ended the conversation. The stress caused by the cognitive dissonance was pretty high.
I find Christians do this a lot. They reject what they don't like in the Bible.

Simple. People wear the badge of being a Christian with honor. It's not so much about what the Bible says but more about the social acceptance of putting on the facade of being a "good Christian",me thinks.
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
I used to do that when I was a young adult. I recall arguing with a Messianic Jew about Leviticus 18.

I know am much more into following the Bible as it is written (I even abstain from blood though don't try the Kosher route because of a verse in Acts), but also understand that Christians are meant to judge within the community and let non-Christians be judged by God.

That means that even though homosexuality is a sin, it is not the responsibility for Christians to rule over the actions of those who are not Christians.

So yes, gay marriage is allowed when it is done by the state.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
(April 29, 2016 at 3:53 pm)wiploc Wrote:
(February 10, 2014 at 6:04 pm)KUSA Wrote: I had a conversation with Christian girl yesterday and it randomly led to the subject of homosexuality.
She believes that it is perfectly acceptable to be a homosexual because you should be able to love anyone you want.
I asked her how she could say that and call herself a Christian. She became iritated. I pointed out that her Bible clearly states that it is an abomination. She finally said " I don't care what it says" and ended the conversation. The stress caused by the cognitive dissonance was pretty high.
I find Christians do this a lot. They reject what they don't like in the Bible.

You can't be a Christian unless you cherry-pick which parts you want to believe.  The bible is shot thru with contradictions.  If you read that god can do everything, and also that he can't defeat iron chariots, then you have to pick one or the other.  You can't believe both.

Atheists, on the other hand, can read the bible literally.  We can say, "That's a contradiction.  The bible has to be wrong about at least one of the two conflicting statements."
it is because of blind faith that makes the Christian follow the bible before really knowing whats in it and all the scripture with in the book, they tend to stay with the new testament and want to avoid the old testament to make their point even stronger, but you cannot take, this book and dismiss the first half and pick it up in the second half with no foundation to stand on, and so it sounds good , and God of the bible seems ,to be loving for dying for you , and this is where it gets you, and you stop to thinking all together, everyone in the faith seems to just start at the new testament , and run from their as their starting line, never to dig deep and research the origins and facts that turn out to be red flags, by then it is too late you are hooked in, and there is no more ways to reason,
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
Rejection of some select Scriptures is bad enough if done by the specific 'beleiver', but allowing the selection to be made by a third party of the likes of a charlatan like Pat Robertson or a horndog like Jimmy Swaggart or the perennially confused pope would seem to be something most everyone in the believers orbit would realize is a major Error.

Yet, we don't see that at all, in fact, most folks are entirely comfortable in allowing someone else to sell them (and their immortal souls) lock stock and barrel to Satan.

Big head scratcher to me, that's for sure. If you're going to wind up in Hell, might as well be as a result of your being sincerely wrong, not sincerely gullible.
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
(February 10, 2014 at 6:04 pm)KUSA Wrote: I had a conversation with Christian girl yesterday and it randomly led to the subject of homosexuality.
She believes that it is perfectly acceptable to be a homosexual because you should be able to love anyone you want.
I asked her how she could say that and call herself a Christian. She became iritated. I pointed out that her Bible clearly states that it is an abomination. She finally said " I don't care what it says" and ended the conversation. The stress caused by the cognitive dissonance was pretty high.
I find Christians do this a lot. They reject what they don't like in the Bible.

Here's the thing..

We/Christians don't get to call ourselves Christian and it mean anything.

:Mat 7:21
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

Christ goes on to compile a list of great things some of the self proclaimed christians have done... Saint/Pope level stuff. And yet they wrongly identify as Christian.

Christ is the only who can give us this lable, Christ is the only one who can save us. anything else offered/ever offered by a church or any religion is just lip service.

In truth we are not Christians/Not saved till we pass through judgement.. When ever the bible talks about salvation it is always point to the future "you shall be saved" you will be saved... not do this say this prayer and you are saved... not a thing. or not a bible thing, but it is a religion thing...

So you ask how can a christian do...

Here's Jesus' own words:
21 “Not everyone who calls me Lord will enter God’s kingdom. The only people who will enter are those who do what my Father in heaven wants. 22 On that last Day many will call me Lord. They will say, ‘Lord, Lord, by the power of your name we spoke for God. And by your name we forced out demons and did many miracles.’ 23 Then I will tell those people clearly, ‘Get away from me, you people who do wrong. I never knew you.’

So again we see people aligning themselves with Christ and his name, but did evil in their hearts, and he said away from me i never knew you/You were never a christian...

Now before you 'no true scotsman' on me know no true scots refers to arbutary rules to being a scot, verse actual rules conditions set fourth by Christ to being 'christian.'
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
Seeing how people are on this thread despite its age I will add to it too.

My husband is Catholic and I've asked him this before. He said that it is because the bible was man made and can't be guaranteed to be what god wanted to say. Therefore he doesn't believe in the bible itself over all. He did say that the most current pope has said that every good person goes to heaven regardless of belief so I'm not sure of how either him or the pope pulled that outta Christian beliefs but it makes him happy because that means I will be going to heaven with him.
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