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Predicted Next GOP Presidential Candidate
#41
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(February 12, 2014 at 8:39 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:
(February 12, 2014 at 6:46 pm)KUSA Wrote: What he failed to understand and it appears to me that he never figured out throughout his first election, that the republican's weren't interested in compromise.
History will have to judge whether Obama was a naive visionary in over his head or an ingenious sellout secretly working for the GOP.

I'm not a conspiracy nut so I believe the former. That said, the latter would explain a lot.


Simpler answer? Obama is a Corporatist, so him and the Republicans answer to many of the same 'masters'; especially in a post Citizens United landscape.
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#42
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He did just executive-order a raise in the minimum wage for federally-contracted employees. That's definitely not good corporatist behavior.

I sincerely don't think he is a corporatist (at least, certainly not in the same way Republicans generally are), he's just been too afraid to fight against it, as he was too afraid to fight against fundamentalists on gay marriage and the law enforcement industrial complex on cannabis prohibition and the Teahadists on the debt ceiling until last year. He does seem to be getting better, bit by bit.
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(February 13, 2014 at 2:07 am)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: He did just executive-order a raise in the minimum wage for federally-contracted employees. That's definitely not good corporatist behavior.

I sincerely don't think he is a corporatist (at least, certainly not in the same way Republicans generally are), he's just been too afraid to fight against it, as he was too afraid to fight against fundamentalists on gay marriage and the law enforcement industrial complex on cannabis prohibition and the Teahadists on the debt ceiling until last year. He does seem to be getting better, bit by bit.

The ACA is a government handout to the insurance companies, and would be a Republican's wet dream if is wasn't pushed by a black Democrat. Even then, there is no public option.

What are the chances he's not going to okay the Keystone Pipeline, creating billions of dollars in wealth for a Canadian company while offloading all of the environmental risk on the American people?

The massive bank bailouts, and the complete inability to do anything to reel them in since then.

Has there been any talk about doing something to overturn Citizen's United and putting a stop to lobbyist buying off our politicians?

The fact that even his modest raise only applies to new contracts made with the federal government, and even at $10.10 an hour would still fall below a living wage. Raising the minimum wage would be popular, and it polls very well; but I won't be impressed until I see a raise in Federal minimum wage to make it a decent living wage (in excess of $10.50 an hour and adjusted yearly for inflation).

Is he as bad as the Republicans? No. Is he a populist, liberal, or a progressive? Hell no.
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Obama's main problem is that he is completely incapable as a negotiator all he can do is make speeches dealmaking is a no no for him.Obviously his messiah complex doesn't help. he probably thinks he got to the whitehouse on his own merits.
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#45
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Heh, guess it depends on what you mean by "his own merits". There isn't anyone that makes it to where they are without help of somekind.

Romney sure didn't make it on his own. Bush didn't make it on his own, Reagan sure didn't make it on his own.

So who did?
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#46
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Yeah, now that you mention it, there are few GOP politicians I can readily think of who could pass a remedial civics test. Perhaps that should be a requirement before you can take office?
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#47
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(February 13, 2014 at 5:07 am)là bạn điên Wrote: Obama's main problem is that he is completely incapable as a negotiator all he can do is make speeches dealmaking is a no no for him.Obviously his messiah complex doesn't help. he probably thinks he got to the whitehouse on his own merits.

You can't "negotiate" with someone who simply says "no."
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#48
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The Democrats are roughly the equivalent of the UK Conservative Party, liberal democrats and the Blairite wing of the Labour party.
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(February 13, 2014 at 4:11 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(February 13, 2014 at 5:07 am)là bạn điên Wrote: Obama's main problem is that he is completely incapable as a negotiator all he can do is make speeches dealmaking is a no no for him.Obviously his messiah complex doesn't help. he probably thinks he got to the whitehouse on his own merits.

You can't "negotiate" with someone who simply says "no."

Do you ever analyze anything or are you just a propaganda machine? Obama is a negotiation disaster.
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