The redneck strike again.

[Confused Ape]

The I is the real you.
The mind is a storage of color and information.
And the body is the thing that you use to eat, breath and picking the nose.

The mind being a storage of color and information reminds me of various ideas that cognitive scientists have come up with. Here's an interesting one -

The Illusion Of The Self -An Interview with Bruce Hood

I use Eckhart Tolle's technique and, on very rare occasions, I've had a vivid experience of existing and being here but without any thoughts about it. On other rare occasions I manage to be aware of thoughts and images drifting through my head without getting caught up in them. I'm guessing that this is what you mean by the "I" which is the real person.

As yet there is no evidence that the "I" experience is more than something produced by the brain. The brain, meanwhile, is part of the body.

The way I see it, all this talk about reincarnation and not needing to be born again etc. is just dogma. Why do you need to believe in it in order to experience the results of meditation?

[Whateverist]

......you need to understand that we don't think alike. For one thing I'm not stone cold crazy.

We all do not know something but at least a person should acknowledge
and humbly keep quite.

Quiet so. After you.

[Little Rik]

The I is the real you.
The mind is a storage of color and information.
And the body is the thing that you use to eat, breath and picking the nose.

The mind being a storage of color and information reminds me of various ideas that cognitive scientists have come up with. Here's an interesting one -

The Illusion Of The Self -An Interview with Bruce Hood

The guy go from guessing to guessing.
Sometime he may even come up with the right answer
but most the time the guessing get nowhere.
The only way to find out something is to search where the
answer lie and that place is within.

I use Eckhart Tolle's technique and, on very rare occasions, I've had a vivid experience of existing and being here but without any thoughts about it. On other rare occasions I manage to be aware of thoughts and images drifting through my head without getting caught up in them. I'm guessing that this is what you mean by the "I" which is the real person.

To get inside a place where the treasure lie it takes time
and a lot of effort.
After so many years that i live in a English speaking country i still make some mistakes here and there.
You would too if you would go to live in a country where a different language is spoken.
At the same time if you want to become expert in anything in life you got to practice all the time.
Sometime you feel that some interesting thing is coming from your mind
but it come and goes.
The only way to come and stay with you and get stronger and stronger is to be interested and feed that thought with love.
In the good and in the bad there is always reciprocation.

As yet there is no evidence that the "I" experience is more than something produced by the brain. The brain, meanwhile, is part of the body.

This is one more guessing.
The brain can not produce what is higher than him.
Remember this.........the I control the mind and the mind control the body NOT the other way around.
The brain allow the mind to function but the brain is a medium
like the soil is a medium for a plant to grow so let us not confuse the brain with the mind or the I.

The way I see it, all this talk about reincarnation and not needing to be born again etc. is just dogma. Why do you need to believe in it in order to experience the results of meditation?

You can do meditation without the need to believe in reincarnation but after sometime it all become clear and you understand how the system works.

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We all do not know something but at least a person should acknowledge
and humbly keep quite.

Quiet so. After you.

I am in the process to consider you for a kudos for helping in
filling this page with something so important and constructive.

[Angrboda]

The way I see it, all this talk about reincarnation and not needing to be born again etc. is just dogma. Why do you need to believe in it in order to experience the results of meditation?

You can do meditation without the need to believe in reincarnation but after sometime it all become clear and you understand how the system works.

So what was the reason you meditated before it all became clear and you know how the system works?

[Cyberman]

The guy go from guessing to guessing.
Sometime he may even come up with the right answer
but most the time the guessing get nowhere.
The only way to find out something is to search where the
answer lie and that place is within.

The dragon may shine with the light of a thousand pyres
yet thus will diamonds fall from the clouds of inner wisdom.
When ignorance walks hand in hand with divinity
and clarity of vision
then comes the opportune moment to cleave victory
from the jaws of pallid resentment
tempered in the furnace of temporal ambition.
Woe to the posturing plenitude, for thine will be
the cascading wrath of carnivorous copulating and cacophonous
caterwauling coupled with cavernous and chitinous cunnilinguistic cavorting
and full sore will be the reaping.
I suggest KY.
Lucky colour - puce.

[Whateverist]

Quiet so. After you.

I am in the process to consider you for a kudos for helping in
filling this page with something so important and constructive.

A kudo? Fuck your kudo. If anything I write ever gets through to you I'd expect no less than a medal.

[Confused Ape]

You can do meditation without the need to believe in reincarnation but after sometime it all become clear and you understand how the system works.

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From God On The Brain again.

NARRATOR: This strange sensation of a loss of self is central to religious feelings in all the world's faiths. Buddhists seek a feeling of oneness with the universe, Hindus strive for the soul and God to become one and the Catholics search for the Unio Mystica. Dr Newberg wondered if these very different religions might actually be describing the same thing. To test this theory he took scans of Franciscan nuns at prayer to see if there was any similarity between what was going on in their brains and those of Buddhists.

NEWBERG: Interestingly when we look at the Franciscan nuns we see a similar decrease in the orientation part of the brain as we saw with the Tibetan Buddhists.

NARRATOR: Even though Buddhists and Catholics may come from very different religious traditions, how their minds react to deep meditation or prayer seems, in terms of brain chemistry, to be exactly the same process. Dr Newberg's research shows the first clear scientific evidence that there are a number of different areas in our brain involved in religious belief.

Tibetan Buddhists believe in reincarnation but Franciscan nuns don't even though the brains of praying nuns react in the same way as the brains of meditating Tibetan Buddhists. Christian mystics have the same experience as Tibetan Buddhist mystics but the system of reincarnation has never become clear to them.

It's all very mysterious.

[Little Rik]

It's all very mysterious.

The mystery stay with you until you find out the truth.
While animals are driven by the force that expand
their consciousness men are subject to two forces.
One force try to expand their consciousness and one
try to push them back to animal life so the doubts
make their lives more difficult.
To find out the truth when two opposite forces tell
you that they are both right can be a nightmare.
When you reach this stage the best way to deal with
it is to look at the iceberg.
The iceberg is like our consciousness.
A small part is above the water (visible) and the
main part is under the water (non visible).
By looking at the tiny portion of our knowledge
we tend to think that we know everything.
It is only when we get at the bulk of our consciousness
(hidden knowledge) that we start to understand
all the mysteries.
There are people here and anywhere else that
after reading few books from some philosophers
or on the bases that they got a degree they think
that they know everything when in fact they know nothing.
My belief is that the best knowledge come from within.

[Jacob(smooth)]

Well, it's certainly a good way to avoid learning anything new...

[Little Rik]

If anything I write ever gets through to you................

Why you didn't tell me before that you are here to proselytize
those silly theists?
Now you make me change my mind about that kudo. hock:

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Well, it's certainly a good way to avoid learning anything new...

Quite the opposite Jako.
Most of the inventors after thinking and thinking had the
idea that allow them to discover something new.
Where the idea came from?
From books?
From external sources?
It came from within Jako.
That is the place where most of the knowledge lie.