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Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
#11
RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
There is one other possibility. Frodo may have a higher regard for speaking the truth than you do. Saying or writing or copying and pasting what you do not believe on a dare may not be a matter of complete indifference to everyone. (Your comfort in doing so may also be what leads some theists to question how we as atheists are able to maintain any moral center at all.)

Personally I'm more impressed with people who are able to and choose to say what they actually mean.
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#12
RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
(February 26, 2014 at 9:04 pm)whateverist Wrote: There is one other possibility. Frodo may have a higher regard for speaking the truth than you do.

I'm SURE THAT'S IT! Nothing to do with fear of committing "the unpardonable sin" whatsoever! (unless you pay attention to what fr0do literally just said).

Quote:Saying or writing or copying and pasting what you do not believe on a dare may not be a matter of complete indifference to everyone. (Your comfort in doing so may also be what leads some theists to question how we as atheists are able to maintain any moral center at all.)

Personally I'm more impressed with people who are able to and choose to say what they actually mean.

You're missing the point.

And fr0do, how did you commit the "unpardonable sin" once already? Kind'a means you're fucked, no? Or is it "pardonable" in your special circumstance? (Again I wonder, do you even know what your Bible says?)
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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#13
RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
Your point is to show that believers cower in fear toward their God? I'm sure some do. It isn't anything I wonder about.
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#14
RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
(February 26, 2014 at 9:15 pm)whateverist Wrote: Your point is to show that believers cower in fear toward their God? I'm sure some do. It isn't anything I wonder about.

Neither do I. But our resident Christians here seem confused.

"I don't believe out of fear!"

"No-no-I dare not think about committing the 'unpardonable sin'!" (which is apparently typing words with a disclaimer that you don't actually believe them).
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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#15
RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
(February 26, 2014 at 9:01 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Sooooo, you're not gonna copy and paste it? Lol, I wasn't expecting this much success from the OP.

Tosspot lol Big Grin



Pickup_shonuff - if this thread is a pile of croc and you're a halfwit, post once more on this forum to prove it.

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#16
RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
Haha.

P_S, presupposing a belief in God, of course fear is there. The bible demands that you fear god. This dare is sort of adolescent in nature. It's like daring an openly gay guy to prove he's not gay.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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#17
RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
(February 26, 2014 at 8:07 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Type the following words, say them aloud to yourself. You don't have to mean them. And of course, you can ask your God for forgiveness if you feel dirty afterwards. But prove that you're not actually buying into the crap you believe in based on fear by uttering the simple phrases, knowing "in your heart" what you actually think. Look, I'll try it from my end.

I love the Lord with all my heart and mind. God is great.

I don't mean any of that but it was fairly easy for me to type, knowing how meaningless the words actually are. Now you try:

Jesus is a retarded piece of shit. Yahweh is the dumbest god of them all.

Can you type that? If not, is it because you're afraid?

I just typed it then deleted it. Of course I didn't mean it. I'm not going to put it in print so it can be used against me. Typing a sentence means nothing in itself, but it can be used in many ways. I do have fears and so do atheists.
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#18
RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
[Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.]

ROFLOL
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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#19
RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
(February 26, 2014 at 8:20 pm)Napoléon Wrote: It's pretty funny how all fr0d0 had to do to render your point invalid was copy and paste that one line. Yet, peculiarly, he chooses not to.

Some tests aren't worth acing, especially if the only benefit for doing so amounts to 'not being called a scaredy-cat by someone out for a quick laugh'.

Observe the following example.

"I bet you can't rape and kill your best friend. What, are you scared? Man the fuck up, you whipped pussy! It's easy, you wimp.

[Image: 2010jp_banana.jpg]

Come one, I showed you mine. Show me yours, faggot."

...

It's just... kinda pointless, and hard to respect. I certainly wouldn't want to obey such a test's parameters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nLp021QMs8

Wink

(February 26, 2014 at 8:56 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The words are just disgusting. The ruse is a fallacial party of zero worth. My mind is purely set at disgust at you rather than any fear towards any deity. Me insulting you would be more hurtful to God. If you had an inclining of understanding of the subject you might realise this.

I've committed the unpardonable sin before. Your infantile posturing is nothing.

Huh... I wasn't aware there was only one. Oh well... *hugs*

(February 26, 2014 at 9:49 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Pickup_shonuff - if this thread is a pile of croc and you're a halfwit, post once more on this forum to prove it.

*snerk*

You don't need my help ROFLOL

(February 26, 2014 at 11:43 pm)Lek Wrote: I just typed it then deleted it. Of course I didn't mean it. I'm not going to put it in print so it can be used against me. Typing a sentence means nothing in itself, but it can be used in many ways. I do have fears and so do atheists.

Aye... but dy'know what has no fear?


Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#20
RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
(February 27, 2014 at 12:01 am)Alice Wrote: Some tests aren't worth acing, especially if the only benefit for doing so amounts to 'not being called a scaredy-cat by someone out for a quick laugh'.

It's more than that and you know it.

Completing such a simple task would render the OP completely bollocks. At first I wasn't expecting it to have any success at all, but the more xtians like frods resist the more the point is made.

We're also not talking about rape. We're talking about words. There's a bit of a difference between asking someone to say something that's a bit hurtful and going out and raping and traumatising someone else.
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