Healthcare in America

[Ashes1995]

well said well said

[Moros Synackaon]

(3rd January 2010 03:03)Pippy Wrote:  I don't want hippies in office, I want people who aren't professional liars.

Dishonesty is a big turn off.

By chance, do you have trouble looking in the mirror?

Pot, meet kettle.

[Pippy]

Again my friend, uncalled for and petty. You can hold the opinion that I am a liar, and I respect that, but if you say it our loud as a fact I feel the need to disagree vehemently. Unfortunately there is nothing I hate more than being called a liar, but I rest assured in the fact that you may be incorrect in your assumption. Thank you.

I hear you EvF, and you're right. Everyone is allowed to make mistakes, but needs to attempt to learn from them. I can't personally excuse the politicians anymore. In my view they have taken too long to be allowed to claim that their constant shenanigans are mistakes. After a while you wonder if their stupid and false on purpose. The dog and pony show.

And I also hear you that we don't know of any other ideas. We are kinda stuck in this fishbowl. That is what makes me sound crazy some days. I am trying very hard to have new ideas and try out new possibilities and concepts. I don't fully support Communism, or Capitalism. Nor did I like the two examples of it so highly held, that were both in fact far from their ideological roots. But we can't get tricked into thinking that the only possibilities are these strange bastardizations of modern government theory. We have to try to think a little outside the box, and to adapt to changing necessity as best we can. Isn't that the dance of life on this planet? Successful adaptation?

I try to come up with solutions to the thing I see as problems, but it is difficult.

Thanks

[HalcyonicTrust]

It is indeed difficult. And so is life. It's a big mess but at least it's a natural flowing mess . At least there is life eh? Well... that's an entirely subjective opinion of course, it depends who you are and where you are and how you are.... some people have it so hard that they may wish oblivion.

I appreciate your thanks and your response btw.

EvF

[Meatball]

Well, the Democrats lost Ted Kennedy's Senate seat to the Republicans last night. Scott Brown has vowed to kill the current bill, and he's going to be seated immediately.

That means there are 41 Senators outright against the bill and that the remaining 59, who were already barely on board (see: Lieberman) for the shit-bill, won't be able to pass the bill because the Senate rules are fucking stupid (or is it the obstructionist nature of our generations Senators that's stupid?)

The choices now seem to be:

• Attempt to pass healthcare reform through reconciliation
• Attempt to pass a bi-partisan compromise
• Give up

The underlying issue is that people are fed up with the current government's pussy-footing around issues like healthcare, unemployment, and bank regulation when they control all branches of federal government by a landslide and voting to show it.

Let's hope the currently elected officials can shape up and make some progress, or that their 2011 replacements will be more willing to.

[Eilonnwy]

If my comments in the shoutbox didn't already clue you in, I'm fucking pissed about this. It makes my skin crawl to think this bigoted, homophobic, sexist, teabagging idiot is representing MA. The idea that this douchebag is took Ted Kennedy's seat, a liberal lion who fought for national Health Care reform even after he was diagnosed with a brain tumor-- it sickens me.

Some people are trying to take a positive spin, which is that now the Dems don't have the mythical "Filibuster proof" majority anymore that they'll stop sticking their thumbs up their asses and ram real health care bill down the Republicans throat. One can only hope.

[downbeatplumb]

It amazes me how a country like America lets it self be held back by right wing, often religiously zealot douchebags.

America has somehow let itself become a first and third world country at the same time.

Its a crying shame really.

It would, of course, be so much better if we still ran it!

[Pippy]

That's the problem, threadneedle street is still in charge.

The things fought for in revolution have been taken back over including sovereignty and monetary policy.