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Randa Jarrar is a hypocritical cunt
#21
RE: Randa Jarrar is a hypocritical cunt
... Quill, are you just trying to play devil's advocate? If I read you correctly, you're saying that someone who is white and has been belly dancing for twenty years should quit when they find it's offensive to the writer of the article?
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Randa Jarrar is a hypocritical cunt
(March 20, 2014 at 3:18 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: ... Quill, are you just trying to play devil's advocate? If I read you correctly, you're saying that someone who is white and has been belly dancing for twenty years should quit when they find it's offensive to the writer of the article?

Well no. They can keep belly dancing: they should just quit being white. That's what's offensive to the author.

I’ve read the following arguments, all of which ignore the systematic racism by the dominant culture:
“So black women can’t be ballerinas?”
If black women were part of a dominant culture that had colonized Europe starting at the Italian renaissance, and later colonized France and Russia, and if, after all that, black ballerinas danced in bikini tops, then yes, this argument would work. But it doesn’t.

She has no issue as long as you're not white.
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#23
RE: Randa Jarrar is a hypocritical cunt
(March 20, 2014 at 3:18 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: ... Quill, are you just trying to play devil's advocate? If I read you correctly, you're saying that someone who is white and has been belly dancing for twenty years should quit when they find it's offensive to the writer of the article?
Other people can do whatever they want. I'm just saying if someone thinks my actions are offensive and it really is impacting them I'll stop. But the OP should also take steps to educate people in how to do things "properly" if that's how she feels.
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#24
RE: Randa Jarrar is a hypocritical cunt
(March 20, 2014 at 3:43 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote:
(March 20, 2014 at 3:18 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: ... Quill, are you just trying to play devil's advocate? If I read you correctly, you're saying that someone who is white and has been belly dancing for twenty years should quit when they find it's offensive to the writer of the article?
Other people can do whatever they want. I'm just saying if someone thinks my actions are offensive and it really is impacting them I'll stop. But the OP should also take steps to educate people in how to do things "properly" if that's how she feels.

So, you would quit belly dancing if you'd been doing it for twenty years because it's offensive to the author of the article?
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RE: Randa Jarrar is a hypocritical cunt
(March 20, 2014 at 4:11 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:
(March 20, 2014 at 3:43 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Other people can do whatever they want. I'm just saying if someone thinks my actions are offensive and it really is impacting them I'll stop. But the OP should also take steps to educate people in how to do things "properly" if that's how she feels.

So, you would quit belly dancing if you'd been doing it for twenty years because it's offensive to the author of the article?
Honestly if she came asked me not to, as long as she didn't act like a crazy person I don't see why not. But that is just what I would do.
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#26
RE: Randa Jarrar is a hypocritical cunt
I'm sorry I'm beating a dead horse...

You would give up a hobby that you'd been doing for a lifetime; you've spent money, gained a following. You love your hobby... and you would give it up for a stranger who found it offensive? I find that offensive.
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RE: Randa Jarrar is a hypocritical cunt
(March 20, 2014 at 4:26 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: I'm sorry I'm beating a dead horse...

You would give up a hobby that you'd been doing for a lifetime; you've spent money, gained a following. You love your hobby... and you would give it up for a stranger who found it offensive? I find that offensive.

If i sincerely thought I was causing damage in some then yes most certainly. And if I could some help repair any damage I might have done by my action.

I'm not sure what you're find so bizarre about me not wanting to hurt people.
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RE: Randa Jarrar is a hypocritical cunt
(March 20, 2014 at 4:36 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote:
(March 20, 2014 at 4:26 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: I'm sorry I'm beating a dead horse...

You would give up a hobby that you'd been doing for a lifetime; you've spent money, gained a following. You love your hobby... and you would give it up for a stranger who found it offensive? I find that offensive.

If i sincerely thought I was causing damage in some then yes most certainly. And if I could some help repair any damage I might have done by my action.

I'm not sure what you're find so bizarre about me not wanting to hurt people.

That's what you take from this? What I find bizarre is that you would hurt YOURSELF at the expense of a stranger's offense. Especially someone like the author of the article, who is clearly (to me) a self-obsessed and entitled brat.

Also, what damage do you think belly dancers are causing the author of the article?
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#29
RE: Randa Jarrar is a hypocritical cunt
(March 20, 2014 at 4:36 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: I'm not sure what you're find so bizarre about me not wanting to hurt people.

It's not that. It's that they're hurting you based on their own misinformed prejudices and dislikes, and you're letting them (in this scenario).
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RE: Randa Jarrar is a hypocritical cunt
Some people treat "taking offense" as if it's a sport. If you have a friend who had a traumatic experience, you might avoid certain topics or jokes or even certain terms, because they may find it offensive and you don't want to hurt their feelings or jeopardize a friendship. But if someone I did not even know said to me that they were offended that I had decided to take up a hobby that they felt 'belonged to their culture,' I'd shrug my shoulders and get on with my life. I have no doubt that there are people who would be offended to learn that I don't believe in god. I wouldn't even stop to shrug my shoulders at that.

There are a lot of factors that determine whether someone else's feeling of offense is worth my time to care about, much less address.
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