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Eugenics targets Racial Minorities
#41
RE: Eugenics targets Racial Minorities
(April 2, 2014 at 3:56 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: As my Google-fu is weak, especially at work, anyone have evidence for or against the assertion that Planned Parenthood accepts donations from racist groups and follows instructions to only use the money to sterilize black women or abort black fetuses?

Well. My google-fu seems stronger, but still not strong enough. You remember James O'keefe, the guy who brought down ACORN with his undercover sting journalism thingy?

Some of his earlier work involved phoning planned parenthood with offers of donations for nefarious purposes.
http://www.salon.com/2014/04/01/the_desp..._of_obama/
Only the 1st 4 paragraphs talk of O'keefe

Now, actually finding that video is hard as hell, youtube seems to have deleted them. Also, from what I can tell, planned parenthood was later targeted by a pro-life group in a similar sting to the ACORN one, with a pimp and underage girl… the pro life group being founded by a girl who worked with O'keefe in the original ACORN video (though not the one posing as a prostitute it seems), meaning all your searches turn up this sting, rather than the earlier one we are interested in.

Ah, as I was writing this, found ONE of the calls http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1a2_1205780242
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#42
RE: Eugenics targets Racial Minorities
(March 31, 2014 at 9:04 pm)Stue Denim Wrote: Tor

http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/

Your science czar, Popcorn

And seriously, czars?

The way I see it, a lot of people have an aversion to just the word 'eugenics', rather than a very rational aversion to the idea. The oft-referenced movie 'Idiocracy', the H.G wells sic-fi classic 'The time machine'... they deal with a dysgenic future. People nod their heads in agreement. "Some very good points about the way society is going" they say*. They bemoan the lack of breeding amongst the educated classes… the word is never actually spoken, but you can hear it.

*let's play find the quote, winner gets a kudos.
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#43
RE: Eugenics targets Racial Minorities
(April 2, 2014 at 7:08 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: "With all the posts you've made on this forum and all the answers you've gotten, you still think it's more likely that in a given situation it'll be someone besides you showing a deficiency in ability to think rationally?""

That's not what I think in most situations.

Humility is the first step towards wisdom.

(April 2, 2014 at 7:08 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: However, in this particlar instance
"Oh so the mentality that existed among the founders of planned parenthood and the Eugenics movement doesn't exist today. If you strongly believe that, thank you for demonstrating your brain capacity for thinking rationally."...Okay you disagree? Explain please

For starters, the mentality doesn't have to 'not exist today' for your assertion to be false. The mentality has to have a detectable effect on how Planned Parenthood operates for your claim to hold up.

(April 2, 2014 at 7:08 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: "And you can't think of any alternative explanations for that than 'because eugenics'?" NOt my point at all. He said blacks abort blacks and I was simply stating that the person knifing the child isn't black in the cases I've seen. It was a silly point and my apologies but was relevant to what he said. Forget it!

OK.

(April 2, 2014 at 7:08 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: "your initial positions (that you've reported here so far) tend to be the result of swallowing garbage you never bothered to examine critically."

And you are the authority that determines my sources to be garbage and those that support your Agenda are fact?...got it!

I doubt you 'got it'. You repeatedly have your ass handed to you on this forum, and the one thing I like about you is that you're a man about it. But the reason you keep having your ass handed to you is because you come in cocksure about things you haven't put much thought into or bothered to check out skeptically. There's a pattern, there. And once again, you've gotten your information from one side before checking out what the other has to say. I don't have to be Nostradamus to foretell what comes next.

(April 2, 2014 at 7:08 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: "Care to offer some evidence that blatantly racist groups have any tendency to be pro-choice?"" They admire the fact that abortion and sterilization has kept the black population down and a black child is more than three times likely to be aborted than a white child."

Another assertion is not evidence, and racist groups don't make the choice to have abortions, pregnant women do. Why black women would get abortions at a higher rate than white women (if they do) would likely have more to do with socioeconomic factors than with a conspiracy of racist eugenicists.

(April 2, 2014 at 7:08 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: If you want to know my source on blatantly racist groups wanting blacks whiped out through abortion, contraception, and sterilization watch this video: http://www.maafa21.com/ (Documentary I did NOT find or watch on the Internet btw)

They seem to have the same problem with evidence that you do. What people said a hundred years ago when racism and eugenics were 'in' does not mean Planned Parenthood undertakes to practice eugenics or accepts funding from hate groups with the understanding that the money will only be used to abort the fetuses of black women.

(April 2, 2014 at 7:08 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: Reletives of martin Luther king and other African Americans involved in the Civil Rights movement chipped in.

Did they present evidence? If so, what was it?

(April 2, 2014 at 7:08 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: "Given your record on being wrong about things you claim to know, I give this claim all the credence due to it"""

Mr. Agenda, (you really have an agenda btw), What I do not find favoreably impressive about you is how you immediately assume that since my opinion differs from yours I've been swallowing bullshit/garbage. And that video and website is garbage?

You know this how?

I didn't immediately assume it. I read several threads you started before concluding you usually don't know what you're talking about.

What do you think my agenda is? What do you think the significance of my username is?
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#44
RE: Eugenics targets Racial Minorities
On the other hand, it's hard to tell how to take you. This could be you taking the piss and me falling right over for it.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#45
RE: Eugenics targets Racial Minorities
(April 3, 2014 at 12:59 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(April 2, 2014 at 7:08 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: "With all the posts you've made on this forum and all the answers you've gotten, you still think it's more likely that in a given situation it'll be someone besides you showing a deficiency in ability to think rationally?""

That's not what I think in most situations.

Humility is the first step towards wisdom.

(April 2, 2014 at 7:08 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: "And you can't think of any alternative explanations for that than 'because eugenics'?" NOt my point at all. He said blacks abort blacks and I was simply stating that the person knifing the child isn't black in the cases I've seen. It was a silly point and my apologies but was relevant to what he said. Forget it!

OK.

(April 2, 2014 at 7:08 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: "your initial positions (that you've reported here so far) tend to be the result of swallowing garbage you never bothered to examine critically."

And you are the authority that determines my sources to be garbage and those that support your Agenda are fact?...got it!

I doubt you 'got it'. You repeatedly have your ass handed to you on this forum, and the one thing I like about you is that you're a man about it. But the reason you keep having your ass handed to you is because you come in cocksure about things you haven't put much thought into or bothered to check out skeptically. There's a pattern, there. And once again, you've gotten your information from one side before checking out what the other has to say. I don't have to be Nostradamus to foretell what comes next.

(April 2, 2014 at 7:08 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: "Care to offer some evidence that blatantly racist groups have any tendency to be pro-choice?"" They admire the fact that abortion and sterilization has kept the black population down and a black child is more than three times likely to be aborted than a white child."

Another assertion is not evidence, and racist groups don't make the choice to have abortions, pregnant women do. Why black women would get abortions at a higher rate than white women (if they do) would likely have more to do with socioeconomic factors than with a conspiracy of racist eugenicists.

(April 2, 2014 at 7:08 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: If you want to know my source on blatantly racist groups wanting blacks whiped out through abortion, contraception, and sterilization watch this video: http://www.maafa21.com/ (Documentary I did NOT find or watch on the Internet btw)

They seem to have the same problem with evidence that you do. What people said a hundred years ago when racism and eugenics were 'in' does not mean Planned Parenthood undertakes to practice eugenics or accepts funding from hate groups with the understanding that the money will only be used to abort the fetuses of black women.

(April 2, 2014 at 7:08 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: Reletives of martin Luther king and other African Americans involved in the Civil Rights movement chipped in.

Did they present evidence? If so, what was it?

(April 2, 2014 at 7:08 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: "Given your record on being wrong about things you claim to know, I give this claim all the credence due to it"""

Mr. Agenda, (you really have an agenda btw), What I do not find favoreably impressive about you is how you immediately assume that since my opinion differs from yours I've been swallowing bullshit/garbage. And that video and website is garbage?

You know this how?

I didn't immediately assume it. I read several threads you started before concluding you usually don't know what you're talking about.

What do you think my agenda is? What do you think the significance of my username is?

The argument I was making is that Eugenics targets Racial minorities. That isn’t to say that such is the common philosophy of those who work for planned parenthood. Trust me!

Bullshit! I’m not cocksure of things. However, since I’m outnumbered on this forum a hundred fuckle to one you can impress all your girlfriends by simply showing up to tell me I’m a dumbshit and my sources are smoke and mirrors up the anus!

I believe in discussion and began this discussion with the desire to receive the other side of the argument without biase. The problem is, I’m outnumbered and so must challenge what is presented. I could just go read a shit load of books and watch documentaries but prefer discussion with real human beings. The rest can become intellectual masturbation after a while.

Yes they did present evidence. Watch the documentary. I don’t know your entire agenda but obviously you want to prove that theists are stupid and it appears that those who don’t see eye to eye with you on many topics including Eugenics, are ignorant imbeciles. That’s my read. But God never made me infallible.

If Eugenics will relieve suffering and create a better future for the world, then I'm for it.
Some Eugenicists simply are compassionate and thoughtfull people who wish to find ways to improve future generations through selective reproduction. If this will relieve human suffering and create a better world for our grand and great grandchildren, I'm all for it.

The problem is, Adolf Hitler and the Nazi party were the epitome of this mentality and I think we should be concerned about how barbaric the end result of these standards could become: Breed large families with couples who have normal or superior intelligence, physical health, and emotional stability. Sterilize the feeble minded and weak for the better of society.


If this will create a better future with less suffering great. The problem is, Who then becomes the ultimate authority to decide who can breed and who cannot?
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#46
RE: Eugenics targets Racial Minorities
(March 31, 2014 at 5:35 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: Margaret Sanger, [Image: margaret-sanger.jpg] an attractive lady, but more than littlebit pig racist.

An attractive lady? She looks like Gilligan.

[Image: President-Gilligan.jpg]
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#47
RE: Eugenics targets Racial Minorities
(April 4, 2014 at 10:01 pm)Rahul Wrote:
(March 31, 2014 at 5:35 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: Margaret Sanger, [Image: margaret-sanger.jpg] an attractive lady, but more than littlebit pig racist.

An attractive lady? She looks like Gilligan.

[Image: President-Gilligan.jpg]

ROFLOL How the Hell did you make that connection?

She's one of those women I wouldn't mind doing while suffocating with a plastic bag!

Ah well! I still love her. Rest in peace Mrs. Sanger!
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#48
RE: Eugenics targets Racial Minorities
(April 5, 2014 at 12:33 am)Thunder Cunt Wrote: She's one of those women I wouldn't mind doing while suffocating with a plastic bag!

Ah well! I still love her. Rest in peace Mrs. Sanger!

How the fuck have any of you given this psychopath rep? What the fuck is wrong with you people?
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