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Truly objective ethics
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Truly objective ethics
Hi,
to all interested in secular, universal, absolute and objective morality / ethics.

There is a universal moral system that consists of objective ethics and sacrificial morality, each governing interactions between people (or any intelligent beings) in its respective sphere of society - public and private. The public sphere includes all formal social institutions, and the private sphere includes relations in family, between sexes, friends, etc. There is also the book "(removed)" describing the first part of the moral system.

Here is a short summary. The book shows (and proves) why there could be the only one possible "true" ethics - objective ethics (OE). This true ethics is objective in the sense that its source is in objective (social) reality independent of any possible moral actor. Objective ethics is the basis for actions of and relations between any intelligent beings not connected personally. It has nothing to do with religion, traditions or science. The foundations of OE are purely metaphysical although its practical norms are found and formed through a trusted fair contract between free moral actors. However, OE is not based on contract. Rather it is contract that based on this ethics. Universal common ground for consensus is freedom, and in order to achieve it OE demands the elimination of all forms of violence, coercion, oppression, influence and the like that may violate free expression of the will. Therefore OE leads humanity to a free and just society that is a moral alternative to the modern oppressive order. OE brings no practical benefits, goods or utility, and its ultimate goal is absolute freedom even if it is unreachable.

There is a site dedicated to objective ethics - (removed). It is based on the book and presents all of the important ideas. Thanks for your time / interest.
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#2
RE: Truly objective ethics
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Why Won't God Heal Amputees ? 

Oči moje na ormaru stoje i gledaju kako sarma kipi  Tongue
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#3
RE: Truly objective ethics
Ermagawd tired of seeing "objective morality". 'Tis actually called "moral realism" friends. :p Many atheists twists themselves into pretzels here by accidentally weaseling between different meanings of the word "objective", and equivocating. Hence, if they really accepted their criticisms of "objective morality" as valid, they might as well throw out maths and logic too.


An intersting ethical system I've run across was described as an "anarcho-Kantian" framework, and I thought it was pretty brilliant.
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RE: Truly objective ethics
Quote:Universal common ground for consensus is freedom, and in order to achieve it OE demands the elimination of all forms of violence, coercion, oppression, influence and the like that may violate free expression of the will.

In other words....unobtainable.
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RE: Truly objective ethics
Wow, a 1-post hit-and-run ad for a website? What fun!

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I found that the linked site includes an offer to download an e-pub of this guy's philosophy for just $20 CAD. Extra fun!
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RE: Truly objective ethics
(April 4, 2014 at 12:48 am)bennyboy Wrote: Wow, a 1-post hit-and-run ad for a website? What fun!

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I found that the linked site includes an offer to download an e-pub of this guy's philosophy for just $20 CAD. Extra fun!

Indeed. Oops! What link?
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RE: Truly objective ethics
(April 4, 2014 at 12:48 am)bennyboy Wrote: Wow, a 1-post hit-and-run ad for a website? What fun!

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I found that the linked site includes an offer to download an e-pub of this guy's philosophy for just $20 CAD. Extra fun!

You don't actually have to pay to download the book.

Prisoner Wrote: The test of reasonableness
But what about the contract? What if the opponent does not want dialogue? If he arrogantly declares that our arguments are not intuitive, irrational and inconclusive? That OE is unscientific, unproven and has not passed the evaluation of the highly respected philosophical community? That it has not been published in peer-reviewed journals? Not taught at prestigious universities? That it is set out in plain, primitive language, and the new book itself is too expensive? Friends, do not despair! Years of experience has taught me that people seek the truth, they want to understand the world and use every chance for this. You are just not lucky yet to meet them. Therefore, to avoid unnecessary frustration, it is useful to first make sure that you are dealing with a man, and only then begin to communicate.

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#8
RE: Truly objective ethics
Quote: The book shows (and proves) why there could be the only one possible "true" ethics - objective ethics (OE).

Call now with offer code "atheism" to get a free trial of objective ethics plus, and win a trip to the moral high ground!
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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RE: Truly objective ethics
(April 4, 2014 at 1:02 pm)rasetsu Wrote:
(April 4, 2014 at 12:48 am)bennyboy Wrote: Wow, a 1-post hit-and-run ad for a website? What fun!

-edit-
I found that the linked site includes an offer to download an e-pub of this guy's philosophy for just $20 CAD. Extra fun!

You don't actually have to pay to download the book.
Oh my God, I like totally misjudged this guy? Big Grin
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RE: Truly objective ethics
(April 4, 2014 at 6:13 pm)bennyboy Wrote:
(April 4, 2014 at 1:02 pm)rasetsu Wrote: You don't actually have to pay to download the book.
Oh my God, I like totally misjudged this guy? Big Grin

OMG like it totally doesn't matter. Big Grin

Hit and runners get squarshed.
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