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Why tell anyone?
#51
RE: Why tell anyone?
(April 8, 2014 at 9:14 pm)Phatt Matt s Wrote: Its just a belief

"Atheism is a religion like abstinence is a sex position." -Bill Maher
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(September 17, 2015 at 4:04 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I make change in the coin tendered. If you want courteous treatment, behave courteously. Preaching at me and calling me immoral is not courteous behavior.
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#52
RE: Why tell anyone?
(April 8, 2014 at 9:32 pm)Sejanus Wrote:
(April 8, 2014 at 9:14 pm)Phatt Matt s Wrote: Its just a belief

Lack of*

It is both a belief, and a lack of belief.
You believe there is no reason to believe.



Definition of belief (n)
Bing Dictionary
be·lief[ bi léef ]
acceptance of truth of something: acceptance by the mind that something is true or real, often underpinned by an emotional or spiritual sense of certainty
trust: confidence that somebody or something is good or will be effective
something that somebody believes in: a statement, principle, or doctrine that a person or group accepts as true


I merely believe in observable and conclusively verifiable evidence.

I had a theist use this one on me the other day ("thanks for sharing your beliefs in evolution!")and I had to let him know just what I believed in and why my belief in my beliefs is founded whereas theirs isn't.

I also learned from Ryan, this one when they say 'you have faith in your belief'--which, in my opinion, is when you've won the debate because let's face it: they're just trying to make your blood boil, and the second you show emotion they'll pounce on you personally-- and here's what Esqui said:

Esquilax Wrote:Faith is maintaining a belief in spite of evidence; if new evidence comes to light, science changes to reflect that.


I thought that was pretty insightful and an example of, 'honesty is the best policy.'
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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#53
RE: Why tell anyone?
I work for the DoD. Many of the older crowd (i.e. command/bosses) are very religious. I do not deny if asked, but I do not publicly hang people for expressing their beliefs. All my family members, and a few friends know I am an atheist.
Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan
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#54
RE: Why tell anyone?
(April 8, 2014 at 9:14 pm)Phatt Matt s Wrote: Its just a belief

It's a lack of belief.

I don't believe there aren't any gods, I have no concept of what a god is or any of a god type attributes. I assess each claim as it's made, and accept or reject it based on its specific context.

To say I don't believe in any god is intellectually dishonest as I don't know every claim. See:



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