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Matthew 6: Jesus condemns public prayer

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Matthew 6: Jesus condemns public prayer
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RE: Matthew 6: Jesus condemns public prayer
April 13, 2014 at 12:20 pm (This post was last modified: April 13, 2014 at 12:21 pm by Coffee Jesus.)
(April 13, 2014 at 12:16 pm)FreeTony Wrote: If you're a Christian then Jesus always agrees with your particular opinion on a matter, even if he is reported to have said the exact opposite in the bible.

Screw those biased translators. I can talk to Jesus directly! ... In fact, I am Jesus!
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RE: Matthew 6: Jesus condemns public prayer
April 13, 2014 at 4:47 pm
(April 13, 2014 at 11:45 am)Godlesspanther Wrote: I just don't get the whole prayer thing anyway. If you believe in the grand-cosmic cupcake and it is what you think it is, then why bother saying a single word to it? It already knows exactly what the fuck is going on anyway -- right?
One of the excuses given when asked why so many prayers go unanswered is that one must ask for something that is "in accordance with [god's] will" in order to get an answer. In which case, prayer comes down to asking god to do the things he already plans on doing. So yeah, it's pretty useless.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

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RE: Matthew 6: Jesus condemns public prayer
April 13, 2014 at 4:54 pm (This post was last modified: April 13, 2014 at 4:54 pm by Coffee Jesus.)
(April 13, 2014 at 4:47 pm)Tonus Wrote:
(April 13, 2014 at 11:45 am)Godlesspanther Wrote: I just don't get the whole prayer thing anyway. If you believe in the grand-cosmic cupcake and it is what you think it is, then why bother saying a single word to it? It already knows exactly what the fuck is going on anyway -- right?
One of the excuses given when asked why so many prayers go unanswered is that one must ask for something that is "in accordance with [god's] will" in order to get an answer. In which case, prayer comes down to asking god to do the things he already plans on doing. So yeah, it's pretty useless.

A You can influence a deterministic system as long as you are a part of that deterministic system.
In other words, God already knew you were going to pray to him.
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