Christians Have Some Nerve

[Drich]

Hey,

After reading various works from Bart Ehrman two names keep cropping up.

One is Celsus and the other Prophyry - The Latter even wrote 15 volumes of refutation of the Christian faith and from other sources the church found him a big threat.

What angers me is that Prophyry seen holes all over the Christians faith and belief structure and their writings yet his work was Destroyed.

Perhaps the reason that Christianity looks so legitimate today is because they managed to use Prophryrys arguments to fix the problems in their fucked up belief then burned his work so no one can see the out right lies the Church added / changed or deleted to make it more consistent.

I find myself so completely angry with the Church and Christians for this Injustice - You can never expect anyone to follow your faith or believe a word of it when in the early foundations of your faith you suppressed any criticizm.

One thing I challenge all Christians on here is one that Prophyry noted!

) Referring to Mark 16:18, Porphyry writes: "In another passage Jesus says: "These signs shall
witness to those who believe: they shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover. And if they
drink any deadly drug, it will hurt them in no way." Well then: the proper thing to do would be to use
this process as a test for those aspiring to be priests, bishops or church officers. A deadly drug should
be put in front of them and [only] those who survive drinking it should be elevated in the ranks [of
the church].
If there are those who refuse to submit to such a test, they may as well admit that they do not
believe in the things that Jesus said. For if it is a doctrine of [Christian] faith that men can survive
being poisoned or heal the sick at will, then the believer who does not do such things either does not
believe them, or else believes them so feebly that he may as well not believe them." page 50

Omg, this is a rant based on absolutely no research of your own isn't it?

Everything known of 'poppie' is based on the Christians who answered his written works. So if not for the church this pseudo philosopher and biblical historian would have been forgotten.

Since you did not look anything up before you posted your rant I challenge you to look up the original answers given to poppie when he first challenged the bible 1700 years ago. Because again if not for the quotations in those answer given and preserved by the church poppie would be lost to time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyry_(philosopher)

[Crossless2.0]

Everything known of 'poppie' is based on the Christians who answered his written works. So if not for the church this pseudo philosopher and biblical historian would have been forgotten.

Since you did not look anything up before you posted your rant I challenge you to look up the original answers given to poppie when he first challenged the bible 1700 years ago. Because again if not for the quotations in those answer given and preserved by the church poppie would be lost to time.

Cute, Drich. This is from the article you linked:

During his retirement in Sicily, Porphyry wrote Adversus Christianos (Against the Christians) which consisted of fifteen books. Some thirty Christian apologists, such as Methodius, Eusebius, Apollinaris, Jerome, etc., responded to his challenge. In fact, everything known about Porphyry’s arguments is found in these refutations, largely because Theodosius II burned every copy he could find in A.D. 435 and again in 448. (Bolding mine)

Should we be thankful to the church for preserving their responses to Porphyry after burning the copies of the original? You're ok with that?

[Drich]

Everything known of 'poppie' is based on the Christians who answered his written works. So if not for the church this pseudo philosopher and biblical historian would have been forgotten.

Since you did not look anything up before you posted your rant I challenge you to look up the original answers given to poppie when he first challenged the bible 1700 years ago. Because again if not for the quotations in those answer given and preserved by the church poppie would be lost to time.

Cute, Drich. This is from the article you linked:

During his retirement in Sicily, Porphyry wrote Adversus Christianos (Against the Christians) which consisted of fifteen books. Some thirty Christian apologists, such as Methodius, Eusebius, Apollinaris, Jerome, etc., responded to his challenge. In fact, everything known about Porphyry’s arguments is found in these refutations, largely because Theodosius II burned every copy he could find in A.D. 435 and again in 448. (Bolding mine)

Should we be thankful to the church for preserving their responses to Porphyry after burning the copies of the original? You're ok with that?

Do you thing the bible has never been burned, that there were those of you who tried to wipe it from the earth? Why was one man's efforts in the destruction of poppies work so successful, while the efforts of dozens of men even world leaders fruitless in the destruction of the bible?

[truthBtold]

Cute, Drich. This is from the article you linked:

During his retirement in Sicily, Porphyry wrote Adversus Christianos (Against the Christians) which consisted of fifteen books. Some thirty Christian apologists, such as Methodius, Eusebius, Apollinaris, Jerome, etc., responded to his challenge. In fact, everything known about Porphyry’s arguments is found in these refutations, largely because Theodosius II burned every copy he could find in A.D. 435 and again in 448. (Bolding mine)

Should we be thankful to the church for preserving their responses to Porphyry after burning the copies of the original? You're ok with that?

Do you thing the bible has never been burned, that there were those of you who tried to wipe it from the earth? Why was one man's efforts in the destruction of poppies work so successful, while the efforts of dozens of men even world leaders fruitless in the destruction of the bible?

No.no.no. the attempt to wipe the bible from the earth is not true.. the attempt to wipe my ass with bible is very true.. hi drich.. long time no nonsense.. im mean hear..

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Know to be honest just the fact that guys kidke this existed and wrote in this time speaks to me about just how much the pax romana and the era of the 5 good emperors was a time of learning.

Prophyry didn't live or write during the euphemistically named 'Pax Romana', and he certainly wasn't round during the Nerva–Antonine dynasty.

Just nit picking.

Boru

[Minimalist]

My quibble is with the word "disputed." When even xtian bible publishers include disclaimers about the authenticity of their own work there is no "dispute."

Unless you wish to give credence to inbred, snake-handling, morons from the hills of Kentucky? I don't.

[Drich]

Do you thing the bible has never been burned, that there were those of you who tried to wipe it from the earth? Why was one man's efforts in the destruction of poppies work so successful, while the efforts of dozens of men even world leaders fruitless in the destruction of the bible?

No.no.no. the attempt to wipe the bible from the earth is not true.. the attempt to wipe my ass with bible is very true.. hi drich.. long time no nonsense.. im mean hear..

I guess you still have figured out how to do a google search yet huh?

Maybe I'm pushing too hard, you should probably stick to mastering how to wipe your butt, before bombarding your self with things such as world history..

Oh, and yes nice to be back.

[Rampant.A.I.]

Seems like you have nothing to substantiate that claim, so you revert to childish insults.

You'd think it would be easy to provide evidence of movements to wipe out the bible.

I'll show you an example: Christians have tried repeatedly to wipe out nonbelievers.

Source:
The Crusades, The Inquisition, a long history of violence against nonbelievers.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian...d_violence

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition

[ThomM]

Start Here.

I would also recommend John W Haley's book Alleged Discrepancies of the Bible for further reading.

Much has been written on both sides of the debate with respect to discrepancies/contradictions and the Bible.

The ONE god of the bible is Yahweh - the Jewish GOD - nowhere in the bible does it say that the Christ is anything but the son of a god - not a god himself.

[Lemonvariable72]

Know to be honest just the fact that guys kidke this existed and wrote in this time speaks to me about just how much the pax romana and the era of the 5 good emperors was a time of learning.

Prophyry didn't live or write during the euphemistically named 'Pax Romana', and he certainly wasn't round during the Nerva–Antonine dynasty.

Just nit picking.

Boru

Should have nit picked the grammar. Though you are right, pophyry lived in a rather nasty time actually.