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Obese Epidemic: Political, Economic and Scientific
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RE: Obese Epidemic: Political, Economic and Scientific
I do not doubt that obesity in the world, especially in America, is a problem.

Just look at some of those fat people shows. The Biggest Loser, My 600 Pound Life, Heavy. There are even the documentaries. Fat Head, Killer At Large, Super Size Me.

Not to mention all the scientific papers published on the subject and the news frequently running segments about the obesity problem in the country.
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#12
RE: Obese Epidemic: Political, Economic and Scientific
OK

To summarise. "The Obesity Problem" globally is down to marketing. VERY clever marketing utilising our own inbuilt needs (neuro-chemically) for what we like to eat.
Not unlike religion. The "obesity epidemic" is just a detrimental to your health as religion is. It gives you a sense of euphoria whilst you are being robbed of your $$ in dribs and drabs to fill the coffers of the select few. (read marketing and corporations and religious figures)

There is a "halal" McDonald's (and various other fast food chains are following suit) who have paid some imam/ khomeni so to sell their product to an unsuspecting population.

Really is rather sad when you think about it. All you muslims thinking that you are still 'pure' because 'you eat "halal" only' are really just as dirty as the rest of us and have your own religious leaders to thank for the pleasure.

As for "obesity epidemic" I also would like to posit that ....... IF you keep telling people that there is a world shortage of food (which clearly there is not hence the aforesaid "epidemic") then people are going to eat MORE to survive the time of famine.

So, IS there REALLY a shortage of food? Or is this another marketing ploy by the food industries to sell us products we don't really need? And so, it is also conflating the climate science that is indicating a shortage of rainfall patterns globally that will effect food crops.

VERY muddy waters here.

Check your supermarket, the usage of "super-sizing" aka "value for money" is only lip service to lift the supermarket profits.

The Food Industry denies this....

Oh this one is VERY interesting

http://youtu.be/ZlQHXkOUjeI
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#13
RE: Obese Epidemic: Political, Economic and Scientific
Of course the food industry exists to make money. Did you see the program mention that the epidemic is also in the developing world? It's the endless persuit of profit that's the problem everywhere. Shareholders expect endless growth, and that's just not naturally sustainable.

The human weakness to be exploited is the addictive nature of sugar, fat and salt to us.
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#14
RE: Obese Epidemic: Political, Economic and Scientific
Not only that as you have stated fr0d0, it is a marketing ploy well learned from religion..... consumer perception is EVERYTHING

Loved this remark in E3 of "The Men who made us fat"

Quote: The conflict of interest is outrageous, putting the food Industry at the policy table is akin to putting Dracula in charge of the blood bank"

As a counter balance, the multi billion dollar Diet Industry.

And yet we ALL remain Fat!

http://youtu.be/I-_LoAm_etU
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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RE: Obese Epidemic: Political, Economic and Scientific
You don't need to market sugar fat and salt, it sells itself.
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#16
RE: Obese Epidemic: Political, Economic and Scientific
(April 29, 2014 at 1:31 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You don't need to market sugar fat and salt, it sells itself.

Manufacturers of those products seem to disagree with your observation
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RE: Obese Epidemic: Political, Economic and Scientific
The point of the videos is that the epidemic/ pandemic is fueled by our helpless addiction. You're talking competing distributors not manufacturers. The manufacturers spend a fortune covering their assess so that they don't get passed the health bill. I watched another vid where the same smarmy doc was saying that health care would become unviable by 2024.
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RE: Obese Epidemic: Political, Economic and Scientific
(April 30, 2014 at 2:45 am)fr0d0 Wrote: The point of the videos is that the epidemic/ pandemic is fueled by our helpless addiction. You're talking competing distributors not manufacturers. The manufacturers spend a fortune covering their assess so that they don't get passed the health bill. I watched another vid where the same smarmy doc was saying that health care would become unviable by 2024.

And it is unviable now fr0d0. We have our own problems with the equivalent of your NHS system.

The point of the videos is that, like religion, our "hopeless addiction" seems to be hard wired into our biology. And liken to atheists some are immune to the addiction.

Have you ever REALLY read the ingredients boxes on some of your favourite "healthy" foods?
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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RE: Obese Epidemic: Political, Economic and Scientific
You lose credibility talking religion. Sure there have been abusers, but whatever, just sayin.

It's struggling now, but won't work at all by then. If you have any form of health service, then it's viable.

None are immune.
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RE: Obese Epidemic: Political, Economic and Scientific
(April 30, 2014 at 3:05 am)fr0d0 Wrote: You lose credibility talking religion. Sure there have been abusers, but whatever, just sayin.

Really? Hehe
I must apologise then if I gave you the impression that I thought you did

(April 30, 2014 at 3:05 am)fr0d0 Wrote: It's struggling now, but won't work at all by then. If you have any form of health service, then it's viable.

The operative word here is "Service" what is implied is "government funded" and no it is not viable in the long term. THAT is the problem.

Do you not have great long waiting lists for "Public Hospitals"? And do you think that because you are on a government pension that this is going to continue ad infinitum? Do you seriously think that your NHS is going to cope?


(April 30, 2014 at 3:05 am)fr0d0 Wrote: None are immune.

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