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Why a double negative makes a positive. (Mathematics)

1st January 2010, 14:13
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Why a double negative makes a positive. (Mathematics)
So after a discussion with TruthWorthy in another thread (where he attempted to show that a double positive made a negative), I looked into why a double negative makes a positive.
Essentially, we must first agree that a negative number is simply a positive number multiplied by 1. In other words, to get the negative of 2, we multiply by 1. 1 * 2 = 2. If we accept this as correct, then we can write the multiplication of two negative numbers like so: 2 * 3 = (1)(2)(1)(3) 2 * 3 = (1)(1)(2)(3) 2 * 3 = (1)(1) * 6 So, the question is, (1)(1) = ? The convention (1)(1) = +1 has been adopted because anything else causes the distributive property of multiplication to break for negative numbers. For example, let's assume (1)(1) = 1. (1)(1 + 1) = (1)(1) + (1)(1) (1 + 1) on the left equals 0, so the equation can be written: (1)(0) = (1)(1) + (1)(1) Since we agreed that any positive number multiplied by negative 1 is the negative form, and that (1)(1) = 1, we can further simplify this: (1)(0) = 1 + 1 So: 0 = 2??? If we place any other number (apart from +1) as the answer to the calculation (1)(1) = ?, the same thing happens. This is why two negatives make a positive in mathematics. Reproduced for your enjoyment from http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.negxneg.html 

1st January 2010, 16:08
(This post was last modified: 1st January 2010 16:09 by Purple Rabbit.)
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RE: Why a double negative makes a positive. (Mathematics)
Was your discussion with TruthWorthy about mathematics or logic?


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1st January 2010, 17:19
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RE: Why a double negative makes a positive. (Mathematics)
No idea, he seemed to bring ideas about both into it. Anyway, this thread is about mathematics, nothing else.


1st January 2010, 17:38
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RE: Why a double negative makes a positive. (Mathematics)
im in year 10 now, you have no idea how much our teacher is stressing that 2 negatives equal a positive, and he never told us why, he just says "follow the rules and you'll pass the test" in a very jokingly kind of way, as if it would be to complicated to describe in 2 hours of maths lesson ¬.¬


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1st January 2010, 17:45
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RE: Why a double negative makes a positive. (Mathematics)
Well there you have your answer. 2 negatives make a positive because otherwise all mathematical hell breaks loose.


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1st January 2010, 17:59
(This post was last modified: 1st January 2010 18:00 by Ashes1995.)
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RE: Why a double negative makes a positive. (Mathematics)
you got that right, if someone in our class said that 2 negatives equals a negative because they missed a lesson, our teacher would go freakoid berserko
then again we learned that in like year 7, so that would be the reason behind it 

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1st January 2010, 18:06
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RE: Why a double negative makes a positive. (Mathematics)
Since you are new here, did you also know that 0.9... = 1
https://atheistforums.org/thread1989.html 

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1st January 2010, 19:03
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RE: Why a double negative makes a positive. (Mathematics)
NO ADRIAN! NOT AGAIN!!!


1st January 2010, 19:14
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RE: Why a double negative makes a positive. (Mathematics)
So when she cries "No, no!" she means "Yes".


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1st January 2010, 21:48
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RE: Why a double negative makes a positive. (Mathematics)
Lol! I'm so going to use that...
Would it stand up in court? "Your honor, my client was simply confused by her illogical use of a double negative!" yay Pope! Rhizo 

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