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Can you spot the pattern?
#21
RE: Can you spot the pattern?
(May 19, 2014 at 3:36 pm)A Theist Wrote: What great accomplishments were ever made in the name of atheism?

What little good Christianity has done is irrelevant in comparison to all the violence and suffering it has and continues to perpetrate.

Secular humanism does more for the betterment of society than any religion can claim.
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#22
RE: Can you spot the pattern?
Are you ever not full of shit?

Quote: Adolf Hult, an early 20th century Lutheran pastor claimed that "Suffragism [is] Gripped by Feminism." He said that the suffrage movement had been taken over by "lust and immorality." He feared that the fall of women would lead to the fall of the world. "Must men put on the iron glove?" he asked.

The Reverend John Williams of St. Barnabas Episcopal Church made a distinction between the mainstream suffragists and the radical fringe. Nonetheless, he argued that the more moderate element of the movement failed to limit the excesses of the radicals who were undermining Christian morality, marriage, and home life. The Victorian ideal that a woman's place was in the home as preordained by God. "God meant for women to reign over home, and most good women reject politics because woman suffrage will destroy society."

And a minister from Ponca, Nebraska quoted scripture and said that God simply forgot to list one more commandment — women shall not vote.

http://www.nebraskastudies.org/0700/fram..._0113.html

And,

Quote:In both Europe and the United States many Christians went further, arguing that slavery was actually justified by the words and doctrines of the Bible.

[Slavery] was established by decree of Almighty God...it is sanctioned in the Bible, in both Testaments, from Genesis to Revelation...it has existed in all ages, has been found among the people of the highest civilization, and in nations of the highest proficiency in the arts.
—Jefferson Davis, President, Confederate States of America[109]

Every hope of the existence of church and state, and of civilization itself, hangs upon our arduous effort to defeat the doctrine of Negro suffrage.
—Robert Dabney, a prominent 19th-century Southern Presbyterian pastor

... the right of holding slaves is clearly established in the Holy Scriptures, both by precept and example.
—Richard Furman, President, South Carolina Baptist Convention[110][111]

In 1837, southerners in the Presbyterian denomination joined forces with conservative northerners to drive the antislavery New School Presbyterians out of the denomination. In 1844, the Methodist Episcopal Church split into northern and southern wings over the issue of slavery. In 1845, the Baptists in the South formed the Southern Baptist Convention due to disputes with Northern Baptists over slavery and missions.[112]

Some members of fringe Christian groups like the Christian Identity movement, and the Ku Klux Klan (an organization dedicated to the "empowerment of the white race"), and Aryan Nations still argue that slavery is justified by Christian doctrine today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_slavery

Your precious jesusism shows up on both sides of the ledger.
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#23
RE: Can you spot the pattern?
(May 19, 2014 at 3:36 pm)A Theist Wrote: What great accomplishments were ever made in the name of atheism?

None, which is precisely the point.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#24
RE: Can you spot the pattern?
(May 19, 2014 at 3:46 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Your precious jesusism shows up on both sides of the ledger.


Woah! Wait a minute! You're telling me people can use the Bible to support or oppose literally any cause they want? That's insane! It's almost as if the Bible is a bunch of made up bullshit...
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#25
RE: Can you spot the pattern?
(May 19, 2014 at 3:45 pm)Kitanetos Wrote:
(May 19, 2014 at 3:36 pm)A Theist Wrote: What great accomplishments were ever made in the name of atheism?

What little good Christianity has done is irrelevant in comparison to all the violence and suffering it has and continues to perpetrate.

Oh yeah, Mother Teresa was a real terrorist....and the atheist physicist, Robert Oppenheimer did the world a great service.
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Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
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#26
RE: Can you spot the pattern?
Actually, Mother Teresa...yeah...

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightath...er-teresa/
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I'm a goddess, I'm a mother
I'm a sinner, I'm a saint
I do not feel ashamed
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#27
RE: Can you spot the pattern?
(May 19, 2014 at 4:05 pm)A Theist Wrote: Oh yeah, Mother Teresa was a real terrorist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65JxnUW7Wk4
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#28
Can you spot the pattern?
(May 19, 2014 at 4:05 pm)A Theist Wrote:
(May 19, 2014 at 3:45 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: What little good Christianity has done is irrelevant in comparison to all the violence and suffering it has and continues to perpetrate.

Oh yeah, Mother Teresa was a real terrorist....and the atheist physicist, Robert Oppenheimer did the world a great service.

Albert Einstein
Alan Turing
Stephen Hawking
Richard Feynmann
Peter Higgs
Linus Pauling
Roger Penrose
Erwin Schrödinger
Victor J. Stenger

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_a...technology

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_atheists

http://www.alternet.org/belief/8-atheist...nged-world

Do I need to go on, or are you done talking out your ass? In fact, Alan Turing is the very reason you're able to whine on an Internet forum: your argument is invalid.
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#29
RE: Can you spot the pattern?
(May 19, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote:
(May 19, 2014 at 4:05 pm)A Theist Wrote: Oh yeah, Mother Teresa was a real terrorist....and the atheist physicist, Robert Oppenheimer did the world a great service.

Albert Einstein
Alan Turing
Stephen Hawking
Richard Feynmann
Peter Higgs
Linus Pauling
Roger Penrose
Erwin Schrödinger
Victor J. Stenger

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_a...technology

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_atheists

http://www.alternet.org/belief/8-atheist...nged-world

Do I need to go on, or are you done talking out your ass? In fact, Alan Turing is the very reason you're able to whine on an Internet forum: your argument is invalid.

It still doesn't answer my original question. These guys accomplished things for science and technology, not atheism. They were scientists and inventors who just happened to be atheists. Atheism didn't inspire their acheivements.
What great thing was ever accomplished in the name of atheism?
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Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
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#30
RE: Can you spot the pattern?
(May 19, 2014 at 7:07 pm)A Theist Wrote: It still doesn't answer my original question. These guys accomplished things for science and technology, not atheism. They were scientists and inventors who just happened to be atheists. Atheism didn't inspire their acheivements.
What great thing was ever accomplished in the name of atheism?

What the fuck? No one has made that claim.

And "accomplished in the name of atheism" is pretty much meaningless.
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