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Our God-figure Who Art in Heaven ...
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Our God-figure Who Art in Heaven ...
My wife has been an apatheist for as long as I have known her ... so it was a quite a surprise when she told me she prayed yesterday. (Something I would never do.)

I asked, "Who did you pray to?"
She said, "I don't know."
I said with a grin, "Did you get an answer?"
She shrugged and said, "No."
With another grin I said, "So are you just throwing a random prayer out to any god that has 'his ears on'?"
She says, "Yeah, I guess so. I figured no one was listening, but I thought I'd give it-a-go." "I admit - I felt kinda stupid."
I asked, "So why did you do it?"


And she said...
"If there is a god out there somewhere, he should know what a terribly shitty job he's doing."


Big Grin THAT's my girl!! Big Grin
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#2
RE: Our God-figure Who Art in Heaven ...
I voted futile but that's just for me cos I don't believe in it. If you believe in prayer I imagine the placebo effects will be beneficial.


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

Impersonation is treason.





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#3
RE: Our God-figure Who Art in Heaven ...
I like this prayer. Especially the last part.

Crom, I have never prayed to you before. I have no tongue for it. No one, not even you, will remember if we were good men or bad. Why we fought, and why we died. All that matters is that today, two stood against many. Valor pleases you, so grant me this one request. Grant me revenge!
And if you do not listen, the HELL with you!

"Conan The Barbarian"
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#4
RE: Our God-figure Who Art in Heaven ...
People do irrational things in times of stress. It's just a part of coping with bad things. Maybe try to do something new and exciting with her for a change of pace. That may be good for her.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#5
RE: Our God-figure Who Art in Heaven ...
Prayer???

There have been two studies (relevant scientifically) done of the efficacy of prayer.

I cannot for the life of me remember the names of them

But the conclusion is (or was) prayer - regardless of form, content, or numbers praying - had any effect whatsoever on the subject matter.

None.
People don't go to heaven when they die; they're taken to a special room and burned.
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#6
RE: Our God-figure Who Art in Heaven ...
What are we voting on? "Our God-figure Who Art in Heaven" or the efficacy of prayer?
Teenaged X-Files obsession + Bermuda Triangle episode + Self-led school research project = Atheist.
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#7
RE: Our God-figure Who Art in Heaven ...
What about Pullo's prayer from Rome?






A little tough on the pigeons but fuck 'em.

Cinj...your wife would be a great addition to the board. Tell her to sign up.
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RE: Our God-figure Who Art in Heaven ...
(May 20, 2014 at 9:18 am)Cinjin Wrote: And she said...
"If there is a god out there somewhere, he should know what a terribly shitty job he's doing."


Big Grin THAT's my girl!! Big Grin

Maybe she realized what a terrible job people are doing and hoped she would be able to blame it on God instead.
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RE: Our God-figure Who Art in Heaven ...
(May 20, 2014 at 5:19 pm)Lek Wrote:
(May 20, 2014 at 9:18 am)Cinjin Wrote: And she said...
"If there is a god out there somewhere, he should know what a terribly shitty job he's doing."

Maybe she realized what a terrible job people are doing and hoped she would be able to blame it on God instead.


Perhaps, but it's highly unlikely.
Her parents are devout Christian Reform and she was referencing their claims. Specifically, their continual prayer requests that never EVER get answered.

For instance:
They prayed for a boy in their church for a healing of his Leukemia. Yep, the boy is still dying.
They prayed for funds to replace the front doors of their church which were damaged in a wind storm. Yep, the old doors are still there.
They prayed that a local girl would be found unharmed and returned to her family. Yep, she was found raped and murdered.
They prayed that my son's birthday would have good warm weather. Yep, it was cold and rainy.
They prayed for my aging uncles annual checkup. Yep, the doctor found skin cancer.

My wife wasn't blaming your god for the crimes of humans. She was referring to his complete lack of interest and power to effect anything.



I take that back ...
My mother-in-law did pray that she would find her eye-glasses - and voila, your god apparently does want old gullible imbeciles to see well. Undecided
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RE: Our God-figure Who Art in Heaven ...
Quote:With another grin I said, "So are you just throwing a random prayer out to any god that has 'his ears on'?"

lol, this reminds me of something from Pratchett's 'The Colour Of Magic', the first in the Discworld series:

'Whenever he could spare them, Rincewind was in the habit of dropping a few coins into the coffers of whatever temple he happened to be near, on the theory that a man needed all the help can get.'

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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